The perfect Passagemaker? (style within this genre)

[apex1]

you allow girls on your boats to wear bikinis?

From 25 years on upwards, mandatory! Below, strictly prohibited!

 

[wardd]

im not a prude and not sexist

i like women, i want to own several

 

[apex1]

im not a prude and not sexist

i like women, i want to own several

One cannot own wiemen.....
And it is not required. Leasing is cheaper and you can change to recent models regularely!

 

[wardd]

One cannot own wiemen.....
And it is not required. Leasing is cheaper and you can change to recent models regularely!

leave it to the professionals for the best solution

 

[Angélique]

im not a prude and not sexist

Both only in your own opinion.

i like women, i want to own several

‘‘want’’ is the key word here.

But I won't spoil this fine thread with drivel --so for me over and out on this topic here--

Cheers,
Angel

 

[apex1]

Both only in your own opinion.
‘‘want’’ is the key word here.

But I won't spoil this fine thread with drivel --so for me over and out here on this topic--

Cheers,
Angel

Ahhhhhhhh,

Sure when we are joking this way, who comes along? The Ladies........

Wardd, we have lost some reputation, you know?:idea:

Oh, ja, and sorry Angel for hijacking my own thread with macho drivel....

 

[wardd]

did we have any?

 

[apex1]

Don´t get personal wardd, and lets come back to topic please.....

 

[Angélique]

Oh, ja, and sorry Angel for hijacking my own thread with macho drivel....

One time is allowed, next time I put you out of here


But let's go back to the boat again...

I posted here about the ‘‘Mooie Meid’’ (Beautiful Girl) in post #297 and #299.

(1989 - 19.60 m x 5.68 m - 64 t - 299 hp)

The only thing I don't like about her is the square *** that goes with the type.



Your trawler's stern is a tad less squarish but still to square for me. Can you do anything about it? Or are you fine with it?

(201.. - 22.5m x 5.90 m - 85 t - 500 hp)

Exept for that one remark, lovely looking boat..!!

Good Luck!
Angel


PS - added sizes for comparison and to estimate the scale in the pictures.

 

[Willallison]

Richard,
I understand your enthusiasm for the split-level saloon - as you say, that is much of what sets the GA apart from the many others that are similar. As long as the two spaces are 'open' to one another it might work ok, but I can't get away from my two concerns over the idea.
1. This is a 22 metre vessel, with living spaces that are rather 'compartmentalised' - what's the point in having a vessel of such proportions if it still feels cramped?
2. As I said before, I would personally prefer to minimise the changes in level between the various spaces on board.

There is one definite advantage to your GA - it brings the wheelhouse further aft, which is definitely a plus in terms of motion at sea. On the downside, it is higher up.... swings and roundabouts....

As for the bikini-wearing girls, we need a little humour around here occaisionally... dont be too hard on them Angelique...
And besides - have you seen a pic of these guys... there's no way they could attract girls wearing anything less than full body armour!

 

[apex1]

One time is allowed, next time I put you out of here

Thanks!
But let's go back to the boat again...

Only thing I don't like about her is the square *** that goes with the type.

I don´t like ANY square ***!

Your trawler's stern is a tad less squarish but still to square for me. Can you do anything about it? Or are you fine with it?

Exept for that one remark, lovely looking boat..!!

Good Luck!
Angel

Being designed for extended passages, the demand for easy access to the water is a big point. A stern like this can provide that easier than the more elegant Gentlemans Yacht. Moreover the boat will have a better behaviour in following seas when the shape is designed right.

Regards
Richard

 

[Willallison]

One other thought...or two...
Cruising is at least as much about the destination as it is about the journey. I would like to see some considerstion given to some outdoor living space(s) that are protected from the wind. Hence my slightly larger aft cockpit...
If it were my vessel, I'd also want an outside steering station, but that's just personal preference....

 

[apex1]

Richard,
I understand your enthusiasm for the split-level saloon - as you say, that is much of what sets the GA apart from the many others that are similar. As long as the two spaces are 'open' to one another it might work ok, but I can't get away from my two concerns over the idea.
1. This is a 22 metre vessel, with living spaces that are rather 'compartmentalised' - what's the point in having a vessel of such proportions if it still feels cramped?
2. As I said before, I would personally prefer to minimise the changes in level between the various spaces on board.

There is one definite advantage to your GA - it brings the wheelhouse further aft, which is definitely a plus in terms of motion at sea. On the downside, it is higher up.... swings and roundabouts....

As for the bikini-wearing girls, we need a little humour around here occaisionally... dont be too hard on them Angelique...
And besides - have you seen a pic of these guys... there's no way they could attract girls wearing anything less than full body armour!

As one can see,

the spaces are open between saloon and galley / dinette, and the galley area is open to the lower aft deck too,so it will not really give you the impression of being cramped. Layed out with just a couple, or a small family in mind, I tend to have rather more, than larger "rooms". Being able to separate from each other is my philosophy behind this arrangement. I found that this is a real big problem for many people.
A large saloon / galley area might impress the dock neighbours, but it has little value at sea or anchorage. Futher, I think the better we can hold on to something, the lesser the chance to be thrown around, the safer the room.

The higher bridge is what I wanted, for better sightline over a really high bow! But I don´t want to go two decks above main, so this is the compromise. The Bridge far aft and the high bow are a big advantage, as we know. The greater movement at the wheel, yes, that is less desirable, but these craft are for clients with stable sealegs anyway, not for Sissy with a dream.

To the outdoor living space. I already thought about lengthening the aft deck a bit.
The "Funnel" houses and hides a single seater "Flybridge".

Of course I appreciate a little humour on these threads (even a little more), but I did not get your sidenote about our appearance? At least I am as crisp as ever!

Regards
Richard

 

[Angélique]

I did not get your (Will's) sidenote about our appearance? At least I am as crisp as ever!

In that case take one 'r' out and think it's French . .

Cheers
Angel

 

[hoytedow]

One cannot own wiemen.....
And it is not required. Leasing is cheaper and you can change to recent models regularely!

We are only staff, not owners.