Moth on Foils: 35.9 knots(41.29 mph)

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Moth on Foils!

This is taken in Charelston at the North American Championship- its an ok video. If you're offended by Sailor Language, do not watch the last 30 seconds. It's great to see Moth racing in the USA!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DOZ7jJlxtto


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UPDATE: Anthony Kotoun won(beating such notables a Bora Gulari) the North American Championship-here's the low down: http://www.sailingscuttlebutt.com/2...m_term=Kotoun wins Moth North American Champs
 
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Moth on Foils! 32.2 mph 37.03mph!

From SA
The euros are starting today in Marsala (Sicily), with an interesting weather (20-30 knots on "scirocco" expected).
The euros are starting today in Marsala (Sicily), with an interesting weather (20-30 knots on "scirocco" expected).

Official site:

http://www.moth.it/european2013/

In the meantime, a couple of days ago Chris Rast posted a top speed of 32.2 knots, with a 29.1 10 seconds average...
That is 37.03mph! Speed verified on Italian Moth facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/mothitalia?ref=stream&hc_location=stream

Thanks to Jeff for updating the thread title with the new speed!
 
Moth on Foils! Euro results

From Scuttlebutt Europe and Sail-World: (Nobody from the US entered-not even That Guy-whats up with that?!)
--first few boats were Exocet's-not Mach II's

Chris Rashley Wins Moth Europeans... Three Times In A Row

On the final day of the International Moth European Championship, Marsala was a surprise and exceeded all expectations. There were special people, situations and surprising disappointments. The weather this week betrayed expectations, forecasts and statistics. The area is known to be one of the four windiest in Italy : we had too much wind at the beginning, then none and we risked closing this European Championship with only three valid races.

Today a north-easter of 9/12 knots, later reinforced up to 15, allowed the committee to run another two races. The Kuehne + Nagel 2013 International Moth European Championship closes with five races completed and one discard.

For the third time in a row, Chris Rashley won the European championship, showing an incredible supremacy with three first and a second, discarding a fourth place and being first in 75% of mark roundings. -- report from Sail-World.com
sail-world.com/Australia/Intl-Moth

Final top ten:

1. Chris Rashley, UK, 5.0 points
2. Michael Lennon, UK, 8
3. Jason Belben, UK, 17
4. Ben Paton, UK, 19
5. Tom Offer, UK, 23
6. Pablo Arandia, ESP, 24
7. Renker Matthias, SUI, 27
8. Jason Russell, UK, 27
9. Good Morgan, BEL, 28
10. Chris Rast, SUI, 33

Event site: www.moth.it/european2013/

Article on the ExocetMoth: http://www.sailweb.co.uk/Dinghy/5092/exocet-design-dominates-moth-europeans

Maguire boats-builder of the Exocet: http://www.maguireboats.com/New_Designs
 
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Moth pioneers

Dear mister Lord,

I'm one author on "Foilers", a French blog about hydrofoils.
I saw a very interesting discussion on Boatdesigns.net about the pioneers of Moth hydrofoils...
I'm writing "something" about the Moth for my blog or magazine...
I saw your discussion about the IMCA page and the Moth hydrofoils pioneers...
Could you tell me your opinion about “my” list of pioneers?

1972: P. Frank Raisin (AUS) flew near Brisbane with a Moth with 4 foils.
1988: Ian Ridge (UK) probably flew with a « mono foiler », only a picture of the hull on Internet…
1994: Andrew Paterson (UK) flew with a special configuration with 4 foils
1998: Ian Ward (AUS) tried a trifoiler configuration
1999: Ian Ward (AUS) tried a bifoiler
2000: Brett Burvill and Mark Pavic (AUS), tried also a trifoiler configuration but this architecture was banned from further competition
2002: John and Garth Ilet (AUS) built a bifoiler...

Thank you in advance
Cheers
Frederic Monsonnec

Blog Foilers: http://foils.wordpress.com/
My article in Voiles et voiliers about the hydrofoil sailing pioneers (in French): http://foils.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/voiles-et-voiliers-484-06-2011-c-fevrier-f-monsonnec1.pdf
 
Dear mister Lord,

I'm one author on "Foilers", a French blog about hydrofoils.
I saw a very interesting discussion on Boatdesigns.net about the pioneers of Moth hydrofoils...
I'm writing "something" about the Moth for my blog or magazine...
I saw your discussion about the IMCA page and the Moth hydrofoils pioneers...
Could you tell me your opinion about “my” list of pioneers?

1972: P. Frank Raisin (AUS) flew near Brisbane with a Moth with 4 foils.
I don't know very much about him. His information was only posted on the International Moth website in the last few years. Apparently there is no video-only some hard to see stills?
1988: Ian Ridge (UK) probably flew with a « mono foiler », only a picture of the hull on Internet… I know nothing about this guy.
1994: Andrew Paterson (UK) flew with a special configuration with 4 foils. I know Andy flew- perhaps in the late nineties.
1998: Ian Ward (AUS) tried a trifoiler configuration Ian is a brilliant guy and one of the earliest to fly. There are numerous posts by him on this thread.
1999: Ian Ward (AUS) tried a bifoiler
2000: Brett Burvill and Mark Pavic (AUS), tried also a trifoiler configuration but this architecture was banned from further competition.Brett is credited as the first person to win a race in the Moth class on foils. He told me-not too long ago-that he feels if if his surface piercing foil configuration hadn't been banned that it would out perform the bi-foiler configuration. I'm not so sure-as I understand it ,he had a lot of trouble downwind in waves.
2002: John and Garth Ilet (AUS) built a bifoiler... John Ilett is the most under credited person in all the history of the Moth. According to him he first flew a Moth with a wand altitude control system in 1999 and is the founder and developer of the the flying Moth in my book and should be recognized as such. Variations on his wand system are in use on every Moth produced to this day. His boats were the first to win a Worlds(with Rohan Veal on the boat). His altitude control system made the bi-foiler configuration viable and he deserves great credit. I talked to him via e-mail before he did this, explaining Dr. Bradfields(a friend) wand system to him. He created a variation on the Bradfield system by mounting the wand at the bow of the boat-which is still the position of choice on every production Moth.
2000+: Rohan Veal- another under credited one of the early Moth developers: He "invented" Veal Heel which is the technique used to sail upwind in a Moth. It is simply a phenomenal technique that takes a bi-foiler flying level, heels it to windward(on foils) and that increases righting moment up to 30-40% as well as unloading the vertical foils. The angled hydrofoil develops a force component to weather which relieves the daggerboard of a lot of load ,reducing the incidence of ventilation of the daggerboard.
Veal Heel is one of the most important techniques in sailing a bi-foiler and will eventually play a major role in the development of very large bi-foilers because of the extra RM available "for free". Veal deserves a major place in any history of the Moth.
Thank you in advance
Cheers
Frederic Monsonnec

Blog Foilers: http://foils.wordpress.com/
My article in Voiles et voiliers about the hydrofoil sailing pioneers (in French): http://foils.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/voiles-et-voiliers-484-06-2011-c-fevrier-f-monsonnec1.pdf

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Frederic, I so much enjoy your website!! Thank you for all the effort. I answered you as best I could above with the maroon colored text. Again, thanks for all your effort and a fantastic website! Doug
Frederic- you can "click" on my name and go to my profile and find my e-mail address if you have any questions you'd rather not post here.
 
Dear Doug,

Thank you very much for this complete and quick answer.
I appreciate so much your opinion about the Rohan Veal contribution.

Be careful, I can now send you email! And that's could be the end of your tranquility!!!

I try to respect the verity of the history...
Foilers is not only my baby, I'm not the only one author of the blog.
And sorry, "Foilers" is only in French, my English level is too low...

Fred
 
Dear Doug,

Thank you very much for this complete and quick answer.
I appreciate so much your opinion about the Rohan Veal contribution.

Be careful, I can now send you email! And that's could be the end of your tranquility!!!

I try to respect the verity of the history...
Foilers is not only my baby, I'm not the only one author of the blog.
And sorry, "Foilers" is only in French, my English level is too low...

Fred
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Fred, e-mail me anytime. I'll have a RC trimaran Test model(scaled down precisely from 18'/ 5.5m) to show you before too long. It uses a bi-foiler configuration on the main hull and a modified Team New Zealand foil( curved daggerboard + "L" foil) on each ama(only one of which is used at a time).
Heres a link to a very long thread about it. Originally started as a self-righting trimaran test model and that will still be tested, but in the process of designing ,I came up with this new foil system, which, if it works will reduce drag substantially compared to other three foil foilers.
http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/mu...lf-righting-trimaran-test-model-36058-25.html (start on the last few pages)

Pictures:1) first three are of a concept model of a 12' singlehander using my foil concept except with planing amas instead of ama foils(LOA 12' Beam 17', SA 180 sq.ft),
2) last two were recently taken of the first "float test" of the new test model. The can sitting on deck is just for weight. Note that the length of the model including gantry(not shown) is 5.5'(1.68m) and the beam is 7' (2.13m).
 

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Fred,

Thanks for at least posting a couple of messages in English.

The French have been a very strong element in the advancement of boating, but it seems that few that are in the thick of the French side of development make much attempt at interaction with us lazy (i.e one language only) English speaking types.

I too have browsed through French sailing sites wishing it was easier to understand the written content (sometime the web translators help, but "rough" is an understatement).

Any time you or others want to "cross post" good foiling developments over here, there are plenty that would be very interested.

Actually, just a note now & then to Doug would pretty much ensure that we would see it. He really seems to enjoy being the first to post hot foiling news here at BDN.
 
Dear "P"
Thank you for your encouragement, I 'll tried to be present on foil discussion, and "jump the fence" of the language!
Fred
 
Moth on Foils!

From a post by Clean on DA:

Britain's Greenhalgh Wins Practice Race As Fleet Prepares For Light-Air Conditions

----Rare Forecast Brings Uncertainty To World Championship Fleet

Kaneohe Bay, HI (13 October 2013) - A rare October appearance of unstable weather conditions has sent shockwaves through the fleet on the eve of the 2013 McDougall + Maconaghy Moth World Championship, where 80 of the world's fastest dinghy sailors from 15 nations are making final preparations for the prestigious event. Renowned sailing meteorologist Chris Bedford believes they may have some spare time ahead. "An upper low continues to move away from the Hawaiian Islands, but the associated upper trough and high cloud remains over the islands," Bedford said. The trough will keep the subtropical ridge to the North weak, and he expects the usually reliable trade winds to remain sluggish "at least through midweek, and possibly through the end of the week."

Dozens of sailors spent Sunday cutting, shaping, sanding, polishing, and otherwise modifying their boats' foils -- the underwater fins that allow the 11-foot Moth to fly above the waves and reach speeds unheard of just a few years ago -- to optimize them for the expected light winds.

Britain's Rob Greenhalgh drew first blood on the course, taking the easy victory in Sunday's single practice race. Greenhalgh was unaffected by superstition as he blazed to victory on a squally, shifty Kaneohe Bay, Hawaii. Being a superstitious lot, most sailors will avoid winning the practice race before a major event, but Greenhalgh believes the opposite. "I took the practice race at the last Worlds [in the International 14 Class] I won, so I'm fine with this one," said the dinghy, skiff, and Volvo Ocean Race veteran.

Greenhalgh and a small number of British sailors have shown strong light-air performance, adding to the spirited international rivalries on display here in Hawaii. "There are strong groups from Australia, New Zealand, The UK, the US, and Italy," said California's Zach Maxam. "It's all in good fun, but there's some real national pride here and it definitely adds excitement to the racing."

Detroit's Bora Gulari was crowned US National Champion here over the weekend with a strong win in the 75-boat fleet during last weekend's regatta, but he says conditions will require 'a little bit of everything' to take the 2013 World Title. "It looks like we'll have some light wind, some medium wind, and possibly a little strong breeze," said Gulari, the last man to win a World Championship on US soil, in the Columbia River Gorge in 2009. "The very light guys may have a small advantage at times, but whoever can adapt the best to the widely varied conditions here will probably take home the World Championship trophy," Gulari said.

Simon Payne says it may take even more. "Extreme could be the new normal here in Hawaii," said the 2010 and 2006 Moth World Champion. "If the forecast proves true, the boys that can get to the ends of the start line to avoid the hole in the middle may find themselves looking very strong at the top mark, and those that can come up with the best foils for the conditions may see some advantage as well." Payne has stepped away from competition this year to focus on his family, though he continues to contribute to the Moth fleet as coach and scribe. Read his humorous and insightful breakdown of the Moth Worlds fleet here.

You can find names, sail numbers, and origin for each competitor here.

Racing begins at 1200 tomorrow, with up-to-the-minute coverage on the Moth Worlds Facebook Page. You can find photo galleries of Nationals and pre-world racing in the Moth World Galleries here.

Photos Are Rights-Free For Editorial Use Only. Mandatory credit to read “Thierry Martinez/International Moth Class”


Clean Racing Tip Of The Day

As one of the world's most elite racing classes, the International Moth Class believes it essential to emphasize the responsible use of energy and resources in the context of sailing. Working with 11th Hour Racing, a program of the Schmidt Family Foundation, the Moth Class has come up with a number of initiatives to help all sailing events improve the energy profile and performance of racing boats and increase the personal investment of sailors in the health of our waters.

Each day, the Moth Worlds fleet will highlight a 'Clean Racing Tip' they've implemented; something that will work for regattas and racing classes around the world. Here’s today’s tip:

LEAD BY EXAMPLE! Make sure the best sailors in the fleet — the people who everyone else looks to for tuning and strategy advice — are on board with the green program. This shows the fleet that the green message is for real, and that the values of environmental conservation are truly the values of the sport.



For photos, interview requests, or additional information about the Moth Worlds, please contact us at usmothclass@gmail.com.
 
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