Submarine design from scratch

[jehardiman]

Participating States seek, through their national policies, to ensure that transfers of these items do not contribute to the development or enhancement of military capabilities which undermine these (i.e. nation state and "destabilising accumulation") goals, and are not diverted to support such capabilities."

Nothing per se, but if you undermine your national policies....you may have a visit from somebody from your nation. Zzz says he is from Turkey...but what if he is not...Does your national government want ANY individual who does not already have the capibility to be able build a X-craft or WWI or WWII capiable submarine? Would you hand that power over to a Anders Breivik? FWIW, I think Prof. Joubert way overstepped the bounds. Would you hand anyone a plan and say..."this is how you can kill 5,000 people"?

 

[rwatson]

"transfers of these items "

Doesn't mean the technology from what I can see, just the items, and the tracking of them is what the agreement is about.

If its on the internet, its open slather anyway. there is nothing secret about the internet.

 

[peterAustralia]

Is it just me, or does anyone else see the coincidence in that concrete submarine been built in Columbia.

Now my take is that the builder is legit, however there may just perhaps be some customers in Columbia who see an off the shelf submarine as a useful 'business venture'. Now of course they tell the supplier they want it for recreation, but after they buy it, who is to say to what roles it ends up being used for.

As far as a concrete submarine goes, it seems quite nice. Nice shape. Obviously heaver than steel, reducing its internal capacity (weight of batteries etc) but cheaper. Possibly a shallower max diving depth than steel.

 

[jehardiman]

If its on the internet, its open slather anyway. there is nothing secret about the internet.

Yes, but there is Scalable Social Network Analysis (SSNA).

The purpose of the SSNA algorithms program is to extend techniques of social network analysis to assist with distinguishing potential terrorist cells from legitimate groups of people ... In order to be successful SSNA will require information on the social interactions of the majority of people around the globe. Since the Defense Department cannot easily distinguish between peaceful citizens and terrorists, it will be necessary for them to gather data on innocent civilians as well as on potential terrorists

TIA, (Total Information Awareness) and Information Awareness Office (IAO) are alive and well. What we say here and who we are is tracked, catorgized, and evaluated.....<shrug> not me, but I always wave for the satellite photos...lets them know that you know that they know...

 

[rwatson]

Is it just me, or does anyone else see the coincidence in that concrete submarine been built in Columbia.

Now my take is that the builder is legit, however there may just perhaps be some customers in Columbia who see an off the shelf submarine as a useful 'business venture'. Now of course they tell the supplier they want it for recreation, but after they buy it, who is to say to what roles it ends up being used for.

As far as a concrete submarine goes, it seems quite nice. Nice shape. Obviously heaver than steel, reducing its internal capacity (weight of batteries etc) but cheaper. Possibly a shallower max diving depth than steel.

You obviously didnt bother to read the whole thread. It went on for miles about drug subs etc. If you go to the end, it all has ended in tears, the partially finished sub rusting at the naval dockyards, can even be see on Google earth.

 

[hoytedow]

Also, a must read thread

http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/boat-design/submarine-yacht-project-13844.html

It should be published

Yes. By all means.

 

[gonzo]

Submarines have been successfully built out of wood. Nowadays we have a standard for safety that requires more sophisticated engineering, but it is possible to build a waterproof vessel, submerge it and stop at a depth where the squeaks make you too nervous.

 

[jehardiman]

Submarines have been successfully built out of wood. Nowadays we have a standard for safety that requires more sophisticated engineering, but it is possible to build a waterproof vessel, submerge it and stop at a depth where the squeaks make you too nervous.

The next one I'm thinking about building for myself will be cold-moulded, though it's a wet sub. But it would be really easy to mould up a shallow small diameter 1-atm boat.

 

[pdwiley]

No, I didn't misinterpret your rude, condescending, and spiteful comment that was off topic. If you see my subtle witty retort to your poor demagoguery as only a misunderstanding of your parroted virulent self-loathing it must be because you believe all the subterfuge, innuendo, and chicanery you read on wasted paper or seeping like pus from your monitor.

The United States has always welcomed and lit the path for those with the courage and energy to come to our shores and better themselves. But we can only illuminate the path. Those who sit in their own cesspools dug so deep that they cannot see the shining world that is offered to them if only they would step up into the world of enlightenment and bathe in the wellspring of liberty, equality, and justice must take that step themselves. Those who won't step up into enlightenment, those who revel in their own filth and can only randomly fling ordure in a pathetic attempt to coat everyone else in their misery; they must be dealt with commensurate with their offense against civility or humanity.

That's all wonderful rhetoric and all but....

I actually lived in the USA. I have nothing bad at all to say about the place.

I returned to live in Australia. Australia, IMO, is simply a better place to live for a whole range of reasons, not the least of which is First World treatment of all babies in need of medical care regardless of the ability of their parents to pay.

So, you can take your "rude, condescending, and spiteful comment" as above and apply it to yourself.

PDW

 

[rwatson]

..... the world of enlightenment and bathe in the wellspring of liberty, equality, and justice must take that step themselves. Those who won't step up into enlightenment, those who revel in their own filth and can only randomly fling ordure in a pathetic attempt to coat everyone else in their misery; they must be dealt with commensurate with their offense against civility or humanity.

is this like ... America is the light of the world and we will nuke (deal with) anyone who disagrees ?

I cant see how anyone could possibly be offended by that.

 

[upchurchmr]

jehardiman,

I am one of "us" and that was a little over the top.
No country has a monopoly on good... or bad.

Everyone should have pride in their country, but you did embarrass me. Sounded like a grade school play written by grade schoolers.

 

[Number4]

Some where in Turkey, there is a guy called zzzzz, looking at a computer monitor, thinking, Mein Lieber Gott! What the **** are these lunatics on about????".
How are you doing there zzzzz good buddy?

 

[daiquiri]

Some where in Turkey, there is a guy called zzzzz, looking at a computer monitor, thinking, Mein Lieber Gott! What the **** are these lunatics on about????".

Looks like Turkish guys called zzzzzz use a rather interesting slang...

For the rest - yeah, the direction this thread has taken really sucks.

 

[Number4]

He went to university in Hamburg, come on keep up daiquiri

 

[daiquiri]

Oh, Mein Lieber Gott!
I must have missed that detail.