Random Chip Thread

[Will Gilmore]

Will, is that you doing the painting there ?

No. I was 14 at the time. So..., that actually made the date 1977.

But, that's my older brother cleaning her transom.

My mother thought Adventure was a very photogenic boat. I agree.

-Will (Dragonfly)

 

[A II]

My mother thought Adventure was a very photogenic boat. I agree.

I agree too, thanks for posting !

 

[A II]

Saw in this ad an example of how building costs and work evolve in the project . . .

( this is an 2020 example of a Euroship → Deksalon 2000 casco )

The casco is here about 28 % of the total work and costs, leaving 72 % for the rest.

Casco: € 195,000.-- excl. VAT

Technically ready to sail, painted and glass-tight: € 295,000.-- excl. VAT = 1.51 × casco price

↑ I'll guess this is incl. engine and propulsion, and no interior.​

Completely finished, including generator, central heating with underfloor heating, bow and stern thruster etc. from: € 695,000.-- excl. VAT = 3.56 × casco price

P.S. - See the note in post #22 about this post.

 

[hoytedow]

Casco means hull but does that also include the superstructure?

 

[A II]

Casco means hull but does that also include the superstructure?

In the post #18 case the casco price does include the superstructure, there casco means the bare hull and the bare superstructure together.

In the Philippines Casco is a type of flat bottomed square ended barges.

A casco (barge) in Manila Bay (1906)​

 

[hoytedow]

Gracias.

 

[A II]

I've just noticed the casco in post #18 was built in 2014, so it may contain a discount to get rid of it now, as a result of which the mentioned ratios could be a bit different for an all new build.

 

[A II]

Tumblehome came up on the thread ‘‘Why I'm Following Sven Yrvind’’ in some of the posts from #172 to #198.

I just came across the below example of it in the Dutch sailboat listings:

Canadian built boat, designer Don Martin, yard Cooper Bros, model Martin 29', Dutch ad.

(the pics are hotlinked and will probably disappear here when the ad goes offline)

 

[Will Gilmore]

Instability Questions About Zumwalt Destroyer Are Nothing New https://www.defensenews.com/naval/2015/12/03/instability-questions-about-zumwalt-destroyer-are-nothing-new/
"The Zumwalt and her two sister ships are built with a tumblehome hull, where the sides slope inward rather than outward or at a straight vertical as in most ship designs."

"As the U.S. Navy is poised to award the first construction contracts on its new multibillion-dollar DDG 1000 Zumwalt-class destroyer, experts in and outside the Navy say the radical new hull design might be unstable.

Given just the right conditions, some say, it could even roll over.

At least eight current and former officers, naval engineers and architects and naval analysts interviewed for this article expressed concerns about the ship's stability."

Huh

-Will (Dragonfly)

 

[A II]

Here's a 2013 - 2020 (till now) thread about the Zumwalt: What about Navy's Stealth Destroyer - the Zumwalt

 

[hoytedow]

Here is a random chip of the fungus that has invaded my skiff. It is about 7mm diameter. Now I either do a major repair, build anew or buy one.

 

[A II]

Too bad ! - Any pictures of the infected part Hoyt ?

 

[hoytedow]

It is in more than one part. The boat was neglected for almost 2 years after my shoulder injury. The canvas cover wasn't watertight but provided the perfect environment for growing fungus. Apparently there were some minute cracks in the epoxy on the inside which was continually damp. I opened the drains and lowered the boat into the Gulf until the affected areas were submerged in seawater. I closed the drains and let the fungus pickle in the brine for a few hours. Hopefully that should slow down the process. I estimate the boat will give me about another year as it is, time to apply one of the above options.

 

[Tiny Turnip]

Here's a Yorkshire Coble with pronounced tumblehome. I assume, with no particular evidence, that this was to help in hauling nets, with low down volume maintaining stability as the fishers leant over, and the weight of the net and fish came aboard.

 

[A II]

It is in more than one part. The boat was neglected for almost 2 years after my shoulder injury. The canvas cover wasn't watertight but provided the perfect environment for growing fungus. Apparently there were some minute cracks in the epoxy on the inside which was continually damp. I opened the drains and lowered the boat into the Gulf until the affected areas were submerged in seawater. I closed the drains and let the fungus pickle in the brine for a few hours. Hopefully that should slow down the process. I estimate the boat will give me about another year as it is, time to apply one of the above options.

Terry lost Dace in a in a similar way during a period of illness . .

‘‘ . . . . Alas, Dace was parked out in the yard for several years without maintenance due to a long illness which stopped me doing much at all. When I returned to health I found the plywood on the bottom had delaminated and much of the oak trim had rotted. The oak trim would have been simple to replace but because of the way I built Dace the bottom was impossible to repair, simpler to build another. Sadly, little Dace has been scrapped. . . . . ’’

He happily lived many years and also built many boats after that, now the Ancient Kayaker Rest in Peace.

Good luck Hoyt with stretching the Skiff's life, or a sufficient major repair, or building a new one, or buying one !