Is the ocean broken?

[A II]

Non Sequitur

Every preacher who doesn't do as preached is Non Sequitur, see post #372 where yourself are pointed out as a major example.

 

[SamSam]

It's the same way here in the US, the only way deniers can continue is by suppression and misrepresentation of information.


Research reveals shocking detail on how Australia’s environmental scientists are being silenced
September 8, 2020 4.10pm EDT

Ecologists and conservation experts in government, industry and universities are routinely constrained in communicating scientific evidence on threatened species, mining, logging and other threats to the environment, our new research has found.


Our study, just published, shows how important scientific information about environmental threats often does not reach the public or decision-makers, including government ministers.


In some cases, scientists self-censor information for fear of damaging their careers, losing funding or being misrepresented in the media. In others, senior managers or ministers’ officers prevented researchers from speaking truthfully on scientific matters.


This information blackout, termed “science suppression”, can hide environmentally damaging practices and policies from public scrutiny. The practice is detrimental to both nature and democracy.

Research reveals shocking detail on how Australia's environmental scientists are being silenced https://theconversation.com/research-reveals-shocking-detail-on-how-australias-environmental-scientists-are-being-silenced-140026

 

[hoytedow]

LIKE

Ditto.

 

[SamSam]

How obvious does it have to be that AGW is happening? How obvious does it have to get that AGW denial is based on profit and greed, and not science, before people reject en masse the ignorance of the few AGW deniers? How obvious before people realize the corporate driven hoax of AGW denial?



Federal report warns of financial havoc from climate change

Perhaps most notable is that it is being published at all. The Trump administration has suppressed, altered or watered down government science around climate change as it pushes an aggressive agenda of environmental deregulation that it hopes will spur economic growth.

“This is the first time a government entity has looked at the impacts of climate change on financial markets in the U.S.,” said Robert Litterman, the chairman of the panel that produced the report and a founding partner of Kepos Capital, an investment firm based in New York. “Rather than saying, ‘What’s the science?’ this is saying, ‘What’s the financial risk?’”

“A world wracked by frequent and devastating shocks from climate change cannot sustain the fundamental conditions supporting our financial system,” concluded the report, “Managing Climate Risk in the Financial System,”

Federal report warns of financial havoc from climate change https://www.sltrib.com/news/nation-world/2020/09/09/federal-report-warns/

The report comes out Wednesday...

It also recommends that the Federal Reserve supports international coalitions that handle climate threats, and calls for the Labor Department to revoke a proposed rule that would block retirement investment managers from weighing out environmental risks in their recommendations. It also stresses the importance of a carbon pricing by taxing emissions or establishing a cap-and-trade system. However, the report is also written from a realist perspective, explicitly stating that Trump will most likely ignore these recommendations if he is reelected.

Federal Report Warns of Financial Disaster of Climate Change https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/09/federal-doc-warns-of-financial-disaster-of-climate-change.html

The "hoax" is going to cost you more by denying the reality...

In calling for climate-driven coverage adjustments, the report’s authors likened the monetary threat of world warming to the risk posed by the coronavirus right this moment and by mortgage-backed securities that precipitated the monetary crash in 2008.


One essential distinction, they stated, is that within the case of local weather change, monetary volatility and loss are prone to be unfold out over time, as they hit totally different areas and markets. Insurance corporations might withdraw from California within the wake of devastating wildfires, and residential values might plummet on coastlines and in floodplains. In the Midwest, banks might restrict loans throughout or after prolonged droughts that drastically decrease crop yields. All of these issues might be exacerbated by local weather change, however they’re unlikely to hit abruptly.

Federal Report Warns of Financial Havoc From Climate Change - News Chant USA https://us.newschant.com/us-news/federal-report-warns-of-financial-havoc-from-climate-change/

 

[Yobarnacle]

How obvious does it have to be that AGW is happening? /

How obvious is it you continue to confuse warming and climate change as AGW.? It's very obvious you are obsessed with your delusion.
Yes climate is changing.
Now. YOU PROVE IT'S MAN MADE!
Until you can PROVE it, get off it. A spin story about how it's believed to be man made, IS NOT PROOF!

 

[A II]

It's the same way here in the US, the only way deniers can continue is by suppression and misrepresentation of information.

If AGW was true then the solution would be the many AGW believers would adapt their behaviour and stop using fossil fuels.

That would be convincing too that they believe this nonsense themselves.

 

[A II]

How obvious does it have to be that AGW is happening? How obvious does it have to get that AGW denial is based on profit and greed, and not science, before people reject en masse the ignorance of the few AGW deniers? How obvious before people realize the corporate driven hoax of AGW denial?

What would be wrong when the many AGW believers only go on walking holidays starting and finishing at home and do this barefoot and stop using fossil fuels ?

It would also be convincing that they believe this nonsense and want something to do about it themselves.

 

[Yobarnacle]

Desiderata: A Poem for a Way of Life by Max Ehrmann
Desiderata Quotes by Max Ehrmann https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/2496916-the-desiderata-of-happiness-a-collection-of-philosophical-poems

 

[A II]

The pic with the poem in post #414 is a bit vague for me, but from the links it reads:

(the larger and bold part is from the posted picture)

‘‘ Desiderata

Go placidly amid the noise and haste,
and remember what peace there may be in silence.
As far as possible without surrender
be on good terms with all persons.
Speak your truth quietly and clearly;
and listen to others,
even the dull and the ignorant;
they too have their story.
Avoid loud and aggressive persons,
they are vexations to the spirit.
If you compare yourself with others,
you may become vain and bitter;
for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself.
Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans.
Keep interested in your own career, however humble;
it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time.
Exercise caution in your business affairs;
for the world is full of trickery.
But let this not blind you to what virtue there is;
many persons strive for high ideals;
and everywhere life is full of heroism.
Be yourself.
Especially, do not feign affection.
Neither be cynical about love;
for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment
it is as perennial as the grass.
Take kindly the counsel of the years,
gracefully surrendering the things of youth.
Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune.
But do not distress yourself with dark imaginings.
Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness.
Beyond a wholesome discipline,
be gentle with yourself.
You are a child of the universe,
no less than the trees and the stars;
you have a right to be here.
And whether or not it is clear to you,
no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should.
Therefore be at peace with God,
whatever you conceive Him to be,
and whatever your labors and aspirations,
in the noisy confusion of life keep peace with your soul.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams,
it is still a beautiful world.
Be cheerful.
Strive to be happy. ’’

Thanks for posting Yob !

 

[Will Gilmore]

I had the Desiderata posted next to my bed, throughout high school. It had the author listed as 'Unknown'. Described it as showing up one morning tacked to a church door.

-Will (Dragonfly)

 

[A II]

— Dutch link (2 months offer) — Spanish link (2 days offer) —

Ryanair offers now one million seats from 5 euros one way from the Netherlands and Belgium to Spain between September 1 and October 31, 2020.

I'll bet most of those cheap seats will be bought by the world's majority of hypocritical self-proclaimed AGW believers to spend some cheap time in Spain, others should solve the AGW problem they believe in, just the same practices as with our thread preacher ImaginaryNumber, see eg. post #372 for an example of such behaviour elucidated.

(Dublin airport)

 

[Yobarnacle]

Desiderata - Les Crane
did the best musical rendition IMO

 

[hoytedow]

Here's a good theme song for the agw nonsense.

 

[Yobarnacle]

Here's a good theme song for the agw nonsense.

Doesn't work here, or maybe not Europe either.

 

[hoytedow]

A pity.
Fixed it thanks to A II.