What Do We Think About Climate Change

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  1. Boston

    Boston Previous Member

    splitting hairs does nothing to further the denial

    CO2 CH4 O3 whatever it is its better to find ways to not interfere with the natural processes
     
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  3. Boston

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    I'm a small fish in a big pond hoping
    the pond doesn't fill with pollutants to the point were all the fishy's die off

    Cheers
    B
     
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    Sure, agreed.

    So back to the "global warming" stuff.
    For all the chest pounding and hair pulling, what is the point of all this if there is no alternative to gas, coal or nuclear?
    The "final solution" that you label conspiracy is to reduce human population in its numbers... or regress to living in straw huts, since the "alternatives" (solar and co) are none of the sort and you know it.

    Attacking the ONLY source of energy known to man until today, and limiting the attack on the developed world whilst the majority of the rest builds diesel and coal plants faster than we can say gesundheit is a absurd in the extreme, unless there is another agenda.

    To pontificate about CO2 without even a smidgeon of a viable alternative is pure stupidity and lending itself to be used and useful for purposes unknown.

    Political wars and religious wars have always been fought against an alternative. Convert the communist, convert the capitalist, convert the infidel, convert the savages. In this war the alternative is yet to be invented and suppressing 2/3 of humanity not yet feasible despite the green taste for such reduction.

    So the reality of this debate must be clear to the thinking person: If we can not convince anyone of anything since even the convinced has no option but to flick the switch every day, we are simply playing into the hands of those who know how to profit from this made up scandal.

    Gas, Coal and uranium will go up in price, electricity has already gone up and will continue to do so, enslaving more and more into servitude for the basic necessities. New massive taxes are imposed in order to do ... What is it that they are going to do? Well nothing else but making more money, in perfect collusion with the fuel producers, and the power suppliers and the nation's government all in a nice ballet at unison, screwing the simple minded that believes there is a problem to be solved and that 'they' are doing 'something' about it.
     
  5. Boston

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    next !!!!
     
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    Without hovering too much over your... ahem coff coff ...replies, can you explain the "ready to go at competitive prices" bit in relation to the so called 'alternatives' to coal gas and uranium please?

    Let me clarify that to me an alternative means something that can REPLACE the current product not some hobby like feel good BS that needs subsidies to even exist.
    Just to add to this, I actually have a 3KW/hour system installed on my roof that supplies a good portion of my usage, but I have installed it no because I think "the planet" needs it, but because the governemt in its madness and in its desperation for the green vote is paying me 60c per KW when it costs them 3c to produce it from coal and it would cost me 20c to buy it from them.
    What have you done for "the planet" Boston?

    Please

    The oil companies suppressing technology is not a conspiracy right?

    And
    is pure reality ... Boston reality that is.

    Chill out B, I can picture you with a megaphone marching up and down in front of ... where do you go when you want to be loud ... the white house? You are "out there" with Masdespacio.

    Perhaps you can get toghether, form a Militia up there in Montana and declare independence. You can be ou presidente and Masrapido your sidekick. Perfect. All green and natural.
     
  7. Boston

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    always a pleasure Marco glad you appreciated my post ( I thought I'd stir the fire a bit to see what shook loose, you maintained some civility and sense of humor which is a good sign, I think ? ) am I really going to have to go back and repeat my quotes from the previous cited articles in order for you to realize that the cost of many renewables are now well within the range of our more common energy sources

    we have been pointing this out to you for quite some time now and you have yet to face the facts

    maybe if I post the comparison again our readers at least will be able to avoid the inconvenience of looking it up for themselves to see that there is similarity in costs with available clean energy sources just as I've been saying all along
    http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Cents_Per_Kilowatt-Hour

    no militia's for me Marco
    going to have to leave that to the boyscouts in the crowd

    cheers
    B
     
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    Boston, what's the point of posting real or imaginary cost for renwable? Just have a look at the countires that have taken it on board. Denmark, Germany Norway nad many others have gone real bad, be it wind or solar. Those are not real alternatives, not in their current format despite what the manufacturers want you to believe.
    How on earth would Solar be able to REPLACE a coal/gas /uranium powerstation when the son goes to sleep at night? And wind? what happens if there is no wind. Please!! Give me something better. Invent the way to split the water molecule with some energy left over. If you do, remember to change identity and go into hiding because the extreem greens will have your head.
     
  9. Boston

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    ya that bit about the history of alternatives is a bit off but the details of that error I will leave up to Troy to explain

    cheers
    B
     
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    That response was even weaker than some of mine. Are you running out of arguments or are you willing to admit that Marco1 nailed the facts down using annular threaded nails? Bla bla bla.
     
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    Any body that compares the Boy Scouts to a militia really doesn't have his head screwed on right.
     
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    Because you can't. You know there are no viable alternative. I for one would prefer not to going back to living in teepees and dragging les travois.
     
  13. Boston

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    I'm not sure bla bla bla can be beat for weakness of argument :D

    seems you pretty much got the market cornered on that one :p:p

    cheers
    B
     
  14. Boston

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    wrong

    there are many viable alternatives, although somehow I just dont see you being able to hack living in a tepee. Its kinda like when I took that group of city girls up camping in Yellowstone for a week. We just about had to pry there hands off the makeup cases as we loaded the horses. :p

    B
     

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    Can't argue now. I've got to go be a capitalist.
     
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