What Do We Think About Climate Change

Wrong. "The full scientific world" is not in dispute about global warming; the so-called dispute is mostly between the vast majority of reputable scientists on one side, and a handful of naysayers on the other side. The fact that the naysayers are incredibly noisy for their small numbers doesn't mean their arguments are equal to the scientific evidence on the other side.

Nor was the debate about global warming started by some scientist from New Yawk City!?!?!?, as you'd have us believe.

You're also wrong about records. We have reasonably reliable records back to about 1850, based on direct observation. We have plenty of other evidence going much farther back than that. Your view is about on the level of not believing in dinosaurs, because you've never seen one.

According to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's (NOAA) 2008 State of the Climate Report and the National Aeronautics and Space Administration's (NASA) 2008 Surface Temperature Analysis:

Since the mid 1970s, the average surface temperature has warmed about 1°F.
The Earth’s surface is currently warming at a rate of about 0.29ºF/decade or 2.9°F/century.
The eight warmest years on record (since 1880) have all occurred since 2001, with the warmest year being 2005.
Additionally (from IPCC, 2007):

The warming trend is seen in both daily maximum and minimum temperatures, with minimum temperatures increasing at a faster rate than maximum temperatures.

Land areas have tended to warm faster than ocean areas and the winter months have warmed faster than summer months.

Widespread reductions in the number of days below freezing occurred during the latter half of the 20th century in the United States as well as most land areas of the Northern Hemisphere and areas of the Southern Hemisphere.

Average temperatures in the Arctic have increased at almost twice the global rate in the past 100 years.

http://www.epa.gov/climatechange/science/recenttc.html

While you may poo-poo it, an average temperature rise of one degree is significant.

 

The eight warmest years on record happened after El Gordo lost the 2000 election. It is his fault.

 

gore never said he invented the internet I watched an interview of the man that did invent the internet protocols and he said that what gore did say was perfectly correct

 

So the internet causes global warming?

 

a lot of the bs on this thread contributes

it takes energy to type some of this drivel and expending energy causes heat

 

Prime example.

 

exactly

I save my serious writing for where it will be appreciated

 

"serious writing in support of AGW"?
That is an oximoron.

I wonder how long it will take for those responsible of propagating the lies taken up by the tree huggers to be taken to court?

"Save the planet" ... "save the wales" ... "Fight the miners" ... "Save the valley from the (bad) dam" ... whilst living on the welfare payments on an "alternative" life stile.

 

This once again shows clearly your poor and unuseful level of debate. Arrogancy, scorning opponents and waving up authority arguments, instead of debating the ideas and/or bringing in useful information is the only thing you are able to do. Very frustrating.

 

Guillermo, here's a sampling of the way you talk to people:

It would be wise to think a little bit before posting idiotic asumptions.

We can play this idiots game till exhaustion.

Your sad insisting in such a patronizing, scorning and arrogant attitude is quite boring (may I say idiotic?) and unuseful to keep a clever discussion on these matters here. I'm beginning to think you are no as smart and rational as you should be because of your apparent formation, which is a pity.

May I say also now you are a perfect and shameless idiot....

So what, scatterbrained idiot?

This your post only confirm the perfect idiot you are, let me say you.

I'm sorry to repeat: I consider you another perfect and brainless idiot unable to keep an useful and enrichening debate on this matter.

I'm arguing here with idiots....

When 'idiot' stops being your favorite word for anyone who disagrees with you (and 'arrogant' a close second), you may be in a position to lecture others on their debating style or manners. Until then I suggest you put a sock in it, and go back to your endless, mindless cutting and pasting of graphs, articles, papers and data you don't even properly understand.

 

I recognize I lose my temper with the idiots here refusing to engage in a creative debate, who only want to scorn the work of others because of their lack of knowledge and preconceived ideas. But on top of that I spend many hours searching and reading papers from all points of view on climate matters, working my own numbers and drawing my own conclusions, and then posting here a wealth of information from an sceptic point of view, to contribute with something useful to debate. You should do the same for your camp, Troy, instead of just ranting around in a totally idiotic manner, the only thing you seem to know how to do.

 

...I miss my scatterbrained Boston... At least he is a colorful and amiable nice person

 

Not all points of view are valid on any given topic.

when you eliminate those that have no validity it becomes easier

shocklys view on genetics was no more informed than mine but on transsisters, well he got the nobel

 

True, but we would miss your comments.

 

True.