What Do We Think About Climate Change

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  1. Boston

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    once again you are not grasping the scientific process

    science seldom provides proof as a basis for its development

    instead it uses methodologies based on laboratory re-creatable experiments and a healthy respect for preponderance of evidence

    in the case of global warming the weight of evidence is overwhelmingly in favor of human caused warming which is likely to cause rapid climate shifts outside of the parameters of human development
     
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    BS BS BS
     
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    I have no 'case' to prove; I've made no claims that this is definitively linked to climate change (or global warming or AGW or whatever word you want to use this week). However, it's ridiculous for you to casually dismiss the very high probability that the bleaching is caused by the well-documented high sea temperatures in the area this year.

    http://www.marinebiology.org/coralbleaching.htm

    The sea temperatures in that area are 4 degrees Celsius higher than normal.
     
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    If the problem were due to long-term, ongoing pollution, the coral wouldn't have suddenly started bleaching over that entire sea. Use a little common sense, instead of your google search button.
     
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    As you can see from the post I did not say increased temperatures would not kill corals. I said there are other causes, which you seem eager to dismiss.
    It is up to you to prove increased temperatures(if that is what is killing the coral) is anthropogenic.
    That you have not done.
     
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    You're stretching this beyond the absurd. Why are you frantically looking for causes other than temperature, when the documented temperatures are clearly high enough to do the job?

    You're like a defense lawyer claiming a victim might have died of an asthma attack because people do that sometimes, even though the victim has a bullet hole in him and is lying in a pool of blood.
     
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    You make me raugh!!:D :D
     
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    http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v430/n7001/full/430742a.html

    "Here I show that some corals have adapted to higher temperatures, at least in part, by hosting specifically adapted Symbiodinium. If other coral species can host these or similar Symbiodinium taxa, they might adapt to warmer habitats relatively easily."

    In essence, higher temperatures don't always kill corals.

    They might actually have died from pollution like I hope this thread does.
     
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    How much does this thread contribute to warming?
     
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    It is only so much hot air from a bunch of hotheads, insignificant in the greater picture.
     
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    Give it a rest, Hoyt.
     

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    Yum. French cuisine. :p
     
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    Climate changes, has changed in the past and will change in the future. Nothing we can do about it. We must deal with it and adapt. Some species will perish others will flourish. Nothing new.

    The only topic of interest here is not the obvious changes but the origin of such change, and if it is human induced. Since it is not, the whole topic is a waste of time.
     
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    Truer words were never texted.
     
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    the rest of the world has passed this topic by as it's no longer debatable about climate change and it's cause

    not all arguments carry the same weight
     

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