What Do We Think About Climate Change

I dont think he reads that stuff anyway, just kinda posts it thinking it makes him look sthmat

 

Alan, I'm quite surprised. You're not commenting cleverly.

 

What a foolish statement.
By definition, to "deny" something, that something has to exist first.
One can not deny what does not exist, he can only be skeptic about it or dubious, or declare agnosticism plain and simple.

Equally stupid is to talk about "belief in global warming". What does that mean? Is that a new religious concept that must be believed? I would suggest you call it faith then since by definition faith is the belief in what can not be seen nor proven. You are a global warming faithful. Good for you.

However, to "believe" or to be skeptical about "global warming" is as irrelevant as being a train spotter or a used match counter.
The only part that has any sense debating is not if the planet is warming cooling up or down or sideways, but if humans are the cause of it.

Since the evidence for such wild assumption has been debunked hundreds of times over and since CO2 is not a pollutant but an important atmospheric gas and since the benefits of increased CO2 has been seen and proven for decades, I suggest that the present debate has nothing remotely close to an intelligent thought and that by contributing to this we are all a bit dumber for it.

AGW is a political ploy, a clever stunt that uses the naive and the gullible to support a minority that will benefit from the resources and fund shift that the different proposed legislation will provide if passed. The scores of marginal, disenfranchised, dreamers, idealist, disoccupied, lefties, tree huggers. The armies of underachievers, resentful, jealous, the socially maladjusted, with an axe to grind, left out or dissatisfied for any other reason conceivable have found in AGW a cause to fight for.
Here is a common umbrella that provides a tool to get back at those dirty rich, those filthy entrepreneur, mercenary merchants, intolerable professionals, arrogant winners, rude independent achievers. Here is a way to make the winner pay and to dethrone him. AGW is the French revolution all over. Or should I say Don Quixote? Che Guevara? Take you pick.

 

You're playing BS word games. You know exactly what Alan meant. You also need to get yourself a Webster's, and read it, before you start giving the rest of us lectures on the proper use of the English language and its derivatives.

Here is the first definition in the first link on the first page of a Google search for the definition of 'deny':

de·ny   /dɪˈnaɪ/ Show Spelled[dih-nahy] Show IPA
–verb (used with object), -nied, -ny·ing.
1. to state that (something declared or believed to be true) is not true: to deny an accusation.

Please note that the act of denial is not dependent on the actual existence or truth of whatever is being denied; it is just as possible to deny a false claim or accusation as a true one. Therefore, to claim "I can't deny that, because it doesn't exist" makes no sense at all, from either side of the argument.

Regarding the rest of your irrational rant, the vast majority of scientists in the world who believe AGW is happening are not "[t]he scores of marginal, disenfranchised, dreamers, idealist, disoccupied, lefties, tree huggers. The armies of underachievers, resentful, jealous, the socially maladjusted, with an axe to grind, left out or dissatisfied for any other reason conceivable have found in AGW a cause to fight for.

Your claim that staid, stick-in-the-mud, establishment scientists are wanna-be Che Guevara's has to be one of the most asinine things I've read in this thread--and I've read some doozies.

You remind me of the advice given young lawyers: "if your facts are weak, pound on the law. If your law is weak, pound on the facts. If your facts and law are both weak, pound on the table."

You, sir, are pounding on the table with both fists--and drumming the floor with your heels while you're at it.

 

The Global Warming Faithful are the useful idiots to the leftist regime who would steal our freedom, traditions and way of life. They have repeated their own propaganda so many times they actually believe it themselves even though it reeks of lies to reasonable men. Drill, Baby, drill.

 

This is truth which the useful idiots are incapable of understanding. They have had scales placed over their eyes which blind them to this and other truths.

 

Oh, give me a break. Where's a hit-with-rock smilie when I really need one?

Scientists all over the world had come to the conclusion AGW is real long before the 'leftist regime' in this country ever came to power. To claim the current administration has somehow put together and implemented a back-dated, world-wide conspiracy in the last two years doesn't even make sense. What? You think all those scientific research papers were sent back in time somehow, so they'd be at hand when they were needed?

Remember the Kyoto Protocol? It was adopted 14 years ago. It has been signed and ratified by 187 countries. And you think it's somehow a conspiracy by the Obama administration?

 

Clever has nothing to do with it. I asked you a couple of simple questions. Do you have an opinion on global warming and if so would you be willing to share it with us?

How about an answer to those simple questions?

 

Marco, I see you have gone off your meds again.

 

"...AGW is real long before the 'leftist regime' in this country ever came to power." - Before Prez Johnson? Really, before these ******** started taking over our country from within? Before criminal rights, wealth redistribution, birth control really to get rid of undesirables before they were born, welfare to keep that segment (inner city blacks) on a cycle of dependence and weakness, free love and underlying intent of commensurate breakdown of families in every damned thing they do? Before the supreme court went from "interpreting the law" to "inflecting with their own ideals". The Supreme Court - there is the most ingrained of the leftist regime. We are not talking just Roosevelt, Carter and Obama here...It is bigger than that.

 

Troy and Boston,

Don't you just hate it when Hoyt comes up with unassailable airtight logical arguments like this last one?

I think we all just need to give up and turn our brains over to him for to be re-manufactured.

 

Mark, you remind me of the fat-bellied sheriff in a piss-hole town in Oklahoma (a state with at about the same population as the City of Los Angeles), who told my brother, "yore in Hobart, America now, boy. And don't you fergit it." That ignorant, small-minded, hateful lout and his buddies actually believed they were 'America.'

I suggest you get off your racist, xenophobic, homophobic, hateful butt and go look at the real America. You'll find out you and your paranoid cohorts are just a pimple on the backside of it. You aren't even close to being representative of America--or we'd still be stuck back in the days of lynchings, clothes-hangar abortions, and political witch-hunts for Communist fellow travelers.

My dad once told me: "son, some people like to carry on about the 'good old days.' But I was there, and I wasn't impressed." I'm about the age he was when he said that, and I heartily second it. The US (and its people, white or black) are a damn sight better on the average now than they were when I was growing up.

It's time for you and your kind to lose your ridiculous nostalgia for the good old days that never were, and come to grips with the real world--where even people you don't like are welcome to breathe the air God has provided for all. Tell me: why do you keep ranting about inner-city blacks on welfare? How many effing inner-city blacks do you even have in Alaska? Last time I checked, Alaska had a bunch of drunken, worthless whites, Indians and Inuits--but no inner cities, and no blacks worth mentioning.

 

Hoyte's saving grace is that at least he has a sense of humor. That contrasts sharply with some of the other pompous asses in this thread....

 

14 years ago. Hey, that was during the Clinton/Gore Administration. There is certainly nothing to suspise about that, is there? Leftist propaganda.

 

At least you admit it is totally unrelated to clever.