What Do We Think About Climate Change

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  1. troy2000
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    Close enough. I'll take it....:D
     
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    "My ilk?" A classic example of the way you try to lump everyone who disagrees with you on anything at all into one monolithic group, like they're all quoting from the same Bible or something.

    I happen to be a big-time supporter of nuclear energy. It's completely simpleminded and irrational of you to conclude that if I believe scientists are probably telling the truth about AGW, I must also be anti-nuclear power, a vegan, and a zero-population-growth activist.

    It's also irrational of you to be complaining that Obama has only announced loan guarantees for one nuclear plant so far, considering that it's one more than Dubya, Clinton, Daddy Bush or Reagan ever guaranteed. Somehow, being a president who doesn't push nuclear energy hard didn't become a crime until Obama took office. Why is that, Eddy?
     
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    Glad to hear you are a supported of nuclear Troy, that's 2 pins out of the voodoo doll. But it was the left in this country that stopped nuc's from being built after 30% of the cost of Seabrook was wasted on litigation and construction delay costs. The left also stopped the switch from being flipped on Shoreham in long island, a virtually completed plant ready to be fueled. You can't deny that the left led the charge against nuc construction. If you don't fit the rest of my tongue in cheek characterization well good for you, maybe mama was wrong. But, and a big but, you don't see too many right wingers out there pushing for Cap & Trade now do you? Oh, Puh - leeezzze don't call Lindsay Graham a right winger - lol! Although even he has pulled his support for the bill.

    P.S. I also saw in your profile that you are a Vietnam Vet. Thankyou for your service.
     
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    Thank you Troy2000 for your military service to our country. Thank you for being pro-nuclear energy and thank you for not being ZPG. Now, if we could only get you to abandon the AGW nonsense we would rejoice in your recovery.
     
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    hoytedow Fly on the Wall - Miss ddt yet?

    I am, by the way extremely p.o.'ed at Bush 41 for dismantling the neutron bombs and at Bush 43 for not protecting our borders and signing the campaign reform act into law. Also, both ran as conservatives when they weren't, really. That really annoys me.
     
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    Guys, when did it become obligatory to thank veterans for just doing what was expected of them? It's turned into a ritual. For example, every talk show host in the country (right or left) thinks he has to start every conversation with a veteran by chanting, "thank you for your service to the country." My normal response would be, "yeah, yeah, OK; thank you for caring. Now can we get back to the subject at hand?

    I hate to sound ungracious, because I know you mean well. And I also hate sounding like I'm doing the false modesty thing, as though I'm just fishing for more of the same. But it honestly makes me uncomfortable to get thanked for just doing what was expected of me. It's like getting thanked for showing up at work every day last year, or for paying my taxes, or for not raising my children to be criminals.

    It was a long time ago. I did my duty like most normal people would do; I put my uniforms away and let my hair grow; and I went on with my life. I've done a lot of things since that I rate right up there with my military service -- including the houses I've designed and built for people to live in, and the housefuls of foster kids the wife and I kept around for years.
     
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    For that Troy I thank you. This is a wounderful thing to do.
    Hope more people like you will be willing to have foster kids. I am sure they were in a good home.
    Daniel
     
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    When did it "become obligatory to thank veterans"? That's easy - September 14, 1814. Your ilk wouldn't know that.
     
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    OK, here comes the weenie brigade, marching down Main Street.:rolleyes:

    Mark, the "ilk" you're trying to piss on happens to be a combat veteran, with the scars and the Medical Board to prove it. If it weren't for pride, I could have been pulling a disability pension from the VA for the last 37 years--which would be coming out of your effing taxes.

    Take your tiresome, ignorant, never-ending bad manners and stick them where the sun don't shine.
     
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    OK, they lost me at "our approach is based on the recognition that the transport of tracers in the ocean can be described by a Green's function....":p

    Looks like I have a little studying to do -- after I get some sleep. Between participating in a company accident investigation, having some sort of a stomach bug and changing shifts, I've gotten four hours of sleep in the last two days.
     
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    If you don't think my gratitude was heartfelt you may reject it. I am still gratefull. When someone thanks me for paying my taxes, then squander them for nonsense like buying so-called clunkers I feel robbed and insulted.
     
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    I repeat:
     
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    Just so we understand.:)
     

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    Green's functions are not easy to understand. I have been exposed to them from time to time over the years, but I can't honestly say I have mastered them.

    I believe that the most important important things about this work is that the methods were different from previous work, and that, if I understand correctly, they used more experimental measurements (tracer studies?) as inputs than earlier work.

    The significance of the independence of the methods is that if two independent methods yield similar result then it generally considered that the result is stronger.

    The significance of using more experimental inputs is that it should reduce some of the uncertainties in the work.
     
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