What Do We Think About Climate Change

its but cold here these last few days although the previous few were in the 70s
and with rain

 

Turns out, I was wrong, there have been a helluwalotofweather......it seems... Just a dinghy, GRP, double hull. Went very easy to fish/ fix the ropes to the pullerts(?). Get the boat to float with the gunwale just flush with the water, throw in a big pump, tilt the boat a little, watch the gunwale rise to "safe" position - Coffee.... time....

Then if floated "nicely" just to get the water out of the double hull, opened a small hole, just large enoug to squeeze in a hose. Let another (much) smaller pump run for 2 hours..

It did rise further, but very slowly... too slowly.... much too slowly....then it occured to me.... hey? can it be that I'm only circulating the Sea of Skagerak here...?:idea:

Boat was not stable, funny and interesting, but not stable.... When water is around freezing point, some people are a bit reluctant to go for a trip in a boat that tippy...

So, I pulled it out of the sea, not quite an easy task, little tools for that job, one man. Found an 2"x8" long and used that as a lever from the ropes in front of the boat. Turns out that there was a large crack in the keel in the front, well the boat went up with the front first, and high, so a lot of water/ weight was trapped inside the hull during some parts of this process.

I've seen it kinda happen earlier, when the weather gets real stormy in that place, the waves manages to get across a rather large concrete quay, hammering down on the boat, then I just stood and looked, thought this was....ehhh pretty bad... went back inside.... Coffe seemed as a good idea.....

Need warmer weather to fix this.... Shitty thing is; I'll probably need that crappy boat afloat in a month or two for some testing....

Don't need to go to the gym, this week..... One good thing....

 

sounds like fun Knuts
hope you get it fixed
B

 

Well, its the fishing/ hunting boat, so a nice finish isnt needed (come to think of it a nice finish isnt needed on the other boat either...)... It still has the correct shape. It'll be a boat again, not a big problem. The temperature here in Norway, this time of the year, for a job like that, is however a tiny problem... Just have to wait, though, or some heaters. Wife always wants the boats to be out of the water in the wintertime, but its either at least one boat in the water, or a high security mental ward....

(Sooo Im on the edge now.... )

 

nothing a few beer's cant fix

 

The Catlin Arctic Survey

Not that I agree with what they say on global warming and arctic ice, nor that I like their commercial style show up, but I admire the guts of the "Ice Team". They will swim through the broken package of ice when necessary!

http://www.catlinarcticsurvey.com/

Cheers

 

I think he's starting to see daylight there knuts
next thing you know old G will be sporting some new dew ( hair cut ) requires got to be glued ( worlds most serious moose ) to keep it on end
and holding a Green Peace banner

one can only hope

cheers
B

 

Washington DC weather

YESTERDAY, a former chief at NASA, Dr John S. Theon, slammed the computer models used to determine future climate claiming they are not scientific in part because the modellers have “resisted making their work transparent so that it can be replicated independently by other scientists”.

Today, a founder of the International Journal of Forecasting, Journal of Forecasting, International Institute of Forecasters, and International Symposium on Forecasting, and the author of Long-range Forecasting (1978, 1985), the Principles of Forecasting Handbook, and over 70 papers on forecasting, Dr J. Scott Armstrong, tabled a statement declaring that the forecasting process used by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) lacks a scientific basis.

That prince of idiots algore is scheduled to testify before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in Washington on Wednesday morning. A "Winter storm watch" has been posted for the nation's capital, with three inches of snow forecast for Tuesday night. Legislators are now anxious to hear al-Gore's plans to combat this dangerous climate change … if they can get there through the ice and snow.

http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=20012&wuSelect=WEATHER

http://wattsupwiththat.com/
http://jennifermarohasy.com/blog/2009/01/no-scientific-forecasts-to-support-global-warming/
http://www.icecap.us/

Let us hope that this nonsense about classifying CO2 as a pollutant is rapidly consigned to the "bin of really lousy ideas" and we start building clean burning coalfired power stations, but without the carbon capture apparatus being fitted.

Before anyone accuses me of talking on a subject I know nothing about, please be aware that I worked for some years in the British coal mining industry and gained City & Guilds qualifications in respect of production, distribution and utilisation of solid fuels. In other words, burning coal for steam generation.

Stop press. Sales of wood burning stoves have increased by 50% in UK this winter I wonder why?

Perry

 

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/01/28/2476795.htm?section=justin is a source, along with Professor RickyRood at U of Michigan who leads a course on climate change and how it interplays with business, and policy http://www.wunderground.com/blog/RickyRood/show.html , I would be inclined to trust before many other "quoted blogs"

 

ok if Guillermo can jump ship and swim on over to Green Peace island I suppose I will have to swim over to ye old Exxon Valdez and report the following from the BBC today
although I am vehemently apposed to dumping iron fillings on the Galapagos's Islands

 

Ok, folks, my turn to mess up your weekend....

Download the last version of "google earth"....

Go to Greenland, search up "Helheim glacier" see the ice melt during the last years. That area at least, has been getting a little warmer.

Now to the messup your weekend part:
That google earth is one of those programs; "Yaeh, hon' I'll hit the sack early tonight", and then its suddenly half past 2 in the middle of the night....

The details were amazing earlier, even more so, now.
(Huh? When did HE park HIS car in OUR driveway...? - kiddin')
Its impressive, fantastic.... love it....

AND flip around; look at the stars, planets......

 

Interesting

Hello...

See http://seasteading.org/seastead.org/book_beta/full_book_beta.html ...

SH.

 

Sean,

That's a large site you linked to there, but thanks.

Brian,

The summary at your link says it all.

"These recent observations and measures of opinion motivate conversation, but they do not challenge the fundamental conclusions of climate change science. The Earth will warm, sea level will rise, and the weather will change. Yes there is natural variability, but we can definitively attribute much of the warming to the activities of humans. Majority opinion to the contrary does not make this less true. It is only a convenient belief that abrogates responsibility."

We definitely CANNOT attribute much of the warming to the activities of humans. CO2 is not a pollutant and is not a threat to human life. CO2 levels rise and fall as the oceans warm and cool. CO2 levels were around 280 ppm at the start of the Industrial revolution and have risen 105 ppm to 385 ppm today. In the Cretaceous period, CO2 levels were at 1700 ppm or six times as high as pre-industrial times, yet the average global temperatures were only 4 °C above modern levels. Those are the numbers to remember. Not the pukin' spiel you are hearing from Penny Wong & Krudd. How you Australians managed to saddle yourselves with such stupid leaders is beyond me.

OTOH, witless Brits voted in ZaNuLabour and now we have a PM who, rumour has it, is incontinent from all orifices.

http://www.order-order.com/

The final two sentences in the summary mention that a majority do not believe in AGW and the writer bemoans this. We know that AGW is a scam, designed to lull the population into socialism, and I for one, don't buy it. Two years from now there'll be AGWarmists hanging from lamp posts. It starts with money and ends with money.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Wo..._Against_Credit_Crunch_Handling_By_Government

 

I am trying to buy some land in Dorchester County Maryland... A small part of paradise on the eastern shore of the Chesapeake Bay.

Salt marshes; quiet waters filled with a ever changing pallet of sea life and air rich with shore birds whose presence is defined by seasonal migrations to the arctic shield and back.

Crap and all get out.. the land is going back to the sea at fast clip..

SEA LEVEL is rising.. oddly more here than most places.

Global average- 3mm a year, here in Dorchester county it going up a 5.5mm/year.

The land is sinking- industry and municipal draw downs of the aquifer underlying the county is causing the whole shooting match to subside. Land use changes in the watershed of the Chesapeake Bay are throwing so much sediment into the bay that the place is literally filling up and sinking into the earths mantle under the weight. The global rise in sea level is going up- AGW warming is the cause.

Southern Dorchester County is home of the Black Water marsh preserve. The preserve is a international heritage site. Unmatched in beauty and importance as a ecological resource. The place has lost 35% of marsh since its inception in 1933.. it is expected to be totally gone by 2050.

Landowners (what I would like to become) are faced with hard choices. Watching the million dollar acreage disappear into the advancing sea causes fits- the response is to fortify the land, trying to fight the tide as it were and stop the loss. Ironically the very effort to protect destroys. As rubble "riprap" is placed and bullwarks are built the marshes lose. Destroyed totally as the wave action strikes the fortifications, sea grasses can not survive and no longer are in place to serve as a natural buffer from wave action and a essential portion of the estuaries ecology.

Coastal Maryland is on the front lines. Sea level rise will quickly destroy this environment. Mans well intentioned response will compound the damage to the local ecology.

To my mind and assessment human activities can and do change the environment.

How does this effect us as individuals? I guess it depends.

If you choose to live in a sinking marsh because it's beautiful it could wreck your day.

 

What do you want, advice or tea & sympathy?

The land is sinking. The oceans are cooling & contracting. How long have you got to live? Is Chesapeake Bay still there?

Tell you what. Follow the advice of this silly girl Katty Kay at BBC News, Washington and you will be even more confused.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7857206.stm

If you don't buy because you are fearful, then you will regret it when someone with more nous than you, snaps up the land and steals all your happiness. But there you go. You believe in AGW and your thinking processes do not allow you to be rational in your decision about purchasing land. By being bntii you get bntii outcomes. It's your fate. Swallow or spit? Choices, choices!!