The Ideal Cruiser - a long range passagemaker

Discussion in 'Projects & Proposals' started by D'ARTOIS, Sep 9, 2005.

  1. masrapido
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    By vega:

    "You know, God, the greatest of all architects, when designed the shape of things, made them without sharp bends, all soft curves with beautiful transitions. How can I like sharp bends in an apparently curved surface? That's Anti-Natural"

    Proof that there is no such thing as god. If there were one, he, and all his creations, would be by default unnatural. And he would also be the greatest only as a failure. Just look at human race, his/her "greatest" invention. Ugly, primitive and still violent beyond belief...

    Back to the subject...
     
  2. dougfrolich
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    "You know, God, the greatest of all architects, when designed the shape of things, made them without sharp bends, all soft curves with beautiful transitions. How can I like sharp bends in an apparently curved surface? That's Anti-Natural"

    Piccaso also tought us the heaven and hell can exist in the same place, just like the sea. A good boat must be able to endure both the good and the bad.
     

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  3. D'ARTOIS
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    Very nice - I am going to take delivery of my boat in a week or two, a long voyage is ahead of me, I have to arrange a lot and say good bye to you all.

    Till later

    Brien
     
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    Ideal cruiser: To me, would be a sailboat easily single handed, accomodating 4, preferably shoal draft, reasonable speed, safe!
    I'll get back to you with my design.
    Chandler
     
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    It's all about fair curves eh...Doug???*S*
     
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    Why do you say they're steel??If you're talking about the vondage (spelling) The american entrie was wood composite, (ok it didn't win]
     
  8. Vega
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    Voilá:

    "The 72ft Global Challenge race fleet was carefully designed by internationally renowned yacht designer Rob Humphreys to ensure they are safe, seaworthy and capable of high performance in a wide variety of conditions. All 12 yachts have proved their worth by competing in the BT Global Challenge 2000/1.
    In preparation for the Global Challenge 2004/5 each yacht has undergone an extensive refurbishment programme. Every single piece of equipment has been checked, serviced or replaced and all masts, sails and rigging are new as part of this work.

    With the hull being constructed of 4mm steel sheet, each yacht will weigh approximately 45 tons when fully laden at the start of each leg. Their masts stand 95 feet high from the water line."

    HULL LENGTH 22 Metres 72 Feet

    BEAM 5.5 / 18'2"

    DRAFT 3 / 10

    DISPLACEMENT 38500Kg / 37.5tons

    SAIL AREA Sq. Metres Sq. Feet
    100% FORE 111 / 1,195
    SPINNAKER 358 / 3723
    MAINSAIL 112 / 1,206

    TANK CAPACITY Litres Gallons
    WATER 1,774 391
    FUEL 2,022 445

    http://www.thechalmers.com/challenge/

    http://rickychalmers.brinkster.net/upload/Videos/RoughWeather.mpg

    http://www.humphreysdesign.com/Pages/Design Archive/86 Global Challenge Fleet.html

    http://www.humphreysdesign.com/Pages/round-the-world.html
    ;)
     
  9. masrapido
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    This is the end of this thread. Please post elsewhere 'coz me mate d'artois (conspicuously signing as Brian to confuse the innocent) got himself a long range voyager and is abandoning this one...

    Capts once used to leave the last or sink with their boat...
    :eek:
     
  10. Vega
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    Take also a look at "Adrien", Jean Luc Van Den Heede’s boat, the actual holder of the Global Challenge record, (world tour against the prevailing winds) a beautiful and fast boat designed by Gilles Vaton to go fast upwind and in the most extreme conditions. It's an aluminium boat and this one was not made to be fast under IRC or IMS or downwind, but just to be fast and safe under very different conditions, some of them quite extreme.;)

    http://www.vdh.fr/Gb/default.htm

    http://www.vdh.fr/GB/le_bateau/caracteristique.htm

    http://www.vdh.fr/GB/le_bateau/photos/phototheque.asp

    http://www.vdh.fr/gb/global_challenge/difficulte.htm
     
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    Stewi

    Stewi, I got your mail but the address you gave me is apparently not correct, or I made a mistake: you can reach me on dartois@xs4all.nl
     

  15. AlexMorozov
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    Reverting to theme, In my opinion the ideal cruiser is not always passagemaker, it depends what is your cruising horizont. You know a lot of expirienced cruisers which voiyaging from med to baltic for many years. The size of boat is important matter in our days, when the moorings in europe is became more expensive every year. So I thinh for european cruising the sizeabout 40ft is good enough from economy side. For ocean cruising the size goes up 55-65ft for experienced couple crew. Above is based on my building/sailing expirience and we just launched aluminum 37ft "Nordic Duck" (European Cruiser) and now working on next also aluminum "expedition motorsailer" 64ft as ocean passagemaker. This 64ft (no name yet) has some not standart solutions for passagemaker - lifting bilge boards, water ballast tanks and ice reinforced hull.
    The boat will be build in Holland as the best place for metal boatbuilding, not cheap, but expirience cost money. What guys think about water ballast on passagemaker ?
     
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