Somali pirates

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  1. Yobarnacle
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    Yobarnacle Senior Member holding true course

    Nope. I'm not a macho butthead. Don't need to be. Criminals are basically lazy and, even if intelligent, too lazy to use the brains they were given in a constructive way. They're looking for an easy mark. Someone they can manipulate and intimidate. They have an animal sort of sense, recognizing potential victims. Also, they have an animal sense of who might be dangerous to attack. Maybe it's body language. I probably didn't explain it very well. If your eyes are constantly assessing your location for attack, defense, and escape posibilities, they'll pass you up for somebody looks lost or unaware or drunk, or fearfull. If you are prepared, usually bad things don't happen. It's the thing you weren't expecting or forgot, or over looked, bites you in the arse.
     
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    I don't understand your comment at all. Did you actually read Yobarnacles's post? Or did you just skim it, pull out a few key words and jump to conclusions? You seem to have totally misconstrued what he said...

    I see nothing wrong with him basically saying, "don't swagger and strut like you think you're a bad-*** -- but don't slink around looking like a scared potential victim, either. Either of those will bring trouble down on you. And if you do get jumped, take your opponents out hard and fast."

    Do you have some sort of problem with the idea that a man shouldn't invite trouble, but he should walk like a man and defend himself like one?
     
  3. Yobarnacle
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    Thankyou Troy. I figured you'd understand what I tried to say. And Hoyt.
     
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    I spent a good part of my earlier years in places I wouldn't go anywhere near, nowadays.... I've been domesticated and civilized.:p

    I thought you were dead on with your advice. I think it can be summed up as, "don't look like you're hunting trouble -- but don't look like you're scared of it, either." An air of quiet confidence is the best shield you can have in a lot of places.

    Of course, projecting it may be easier said than done if you don't feel it. For example, I can walk through almost any dog in the world safely. But they go after my older brother every chance they get. I tried explaining to him one time, "Look, bro. If you weren't scared of them, they wouldn't be trying to bite you." And his answer was, "damnit, Troy.... if they weren't trying to bite me, I wouldn't be scared of them."

    Another talent I honed over the years was the ability to see trouble coming, and disappear before it found me. If the situation starts looking dicey, you have nothing to prove by hanging around until things go south.....
     
  5. watchkeeper

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    I'm not being caustic in my post its just the way Yobarnacle has expressed how he deals with ****, as we hear expressed a lot from US with a kind of Hollywood bravado mindset or attitude.

    I'm 5'6 132lb and in 40 odd plus years of being in all sorts of places incl. some I shouldn't, I never was bothered at street level. A few times in the 'definately the wrong place wrong time' I had moments and got the scars to remember.

    But I was also fortunate in having worked along side some very solid very capable men in some difficult places aound the planet including with military on various projects at times glad I was playing on the same team.

    These are men that have used extreme measures on many occassions, on one occassion involving pirates that tried attacking our 2 yacht (3 crew per boat) flotila in Red Sea.

    Some of the hardest men I've ever meet were cattlemen from outback Australia. None of these men incl. the first mentioned would even think to talk about attitude, or how to appear tough they were and you knew it.

    These men you took seriously, they dealt with situations head on no quarter given. On one occassion as special projects engineer I was involved with group NZ/Aus SAS (Boats) training exercise, when a trooper asked for pliers from the boat kit needed to pull a stonefish spine from his foot so he could continue training and he did without missing a beat.
     
  6. Yobarnacle
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    Watchkeeper,
    Aussies are some tough dudes. Some fought alongside us in Vietnam. Catbuilder mentioned earlier that mace and pepper spray were equally illegal as firearms in some countries. My point was all sorts of household items, chemicals, whatever was at hand could be a weapon. Frosty sort of suggested I was my own worst enemy. And that my atitude or viciousness invited trouble. I explained I don't have trouble, except very rare occasion, and I'm always prepared. Then you suggested I was brainwashed by too much american hero TV.
    Believe what you like, pal. Life is good and I haven't ever been bored. I hope my wife and I remain healthy and live a long time to come. And when I die, that'll be the greatest adventure of all. I asked my wife if I pass first, lay me out for people to say goodbye before cremating me and giving my ashes to the sea. When my corpse is on display, put a fork in my hand. When people ask why the fork say, when I was little and we visited grandma for dinner, and the dirty dishes were being cleared off, she'd say, "Keep your fork. There something good coming after!"
     
  7. Yobarnacle
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    Sometimes my wife and I walk 2 blocks down to the OXXO store in the middle of the night or in the am. The mexican dogs bark at us from neighbors rooftops. My wife laughs when I admonish the dogs "Cuidate takito" And the dogs shut up and retreat. What I said was, "Be carefull, taco meat!"
     
  8. Wynand N
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    I would stick to a decent crossbow - silent, deadly and as far as I am aware, not a firearm as such and no firearm license needed.
    Somali pirates will drop like flies when I let such a plaque (arrows) loose on them without them knowing what hit them...even better having the tips treated with some bad *** poison in case you just nicked or wounded a bugger and he can have a painful few hours to contemplate about his thieving ways before descending to hell....
     
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    Some folks have stupidly tried shooting shotgun shells in a flare pistol. I believe a better, safer arrangement would be a chamber insert to shoot .22 lomg rifle. I shoot .22's sometimes in a 20 gauge shotgun barrel. They are silent. The shot tube is a 20+ inch silencer in front of the .22 chamber adapter. I don't know if the flare pistol barrel would be long enough to do the same thing. Reloading be a bit slower than you'd like. Might try it tho. Still, you'd have to hide the 22 shells somehow. Could use a carbon shafted fishing arrow for that. 22's should stack inside the hollow arrow shaft.
     
  10. Frosty

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    Wow --that made me cringe, I feel nauseous.

    Do you say "ille be back"

    Stupid pirate threads they are all the same,---oh and there has been a few.

    Ha thats nothing I walk down to the 7-11 store at 4 am in my pyjamas cuddling my pink panther with the wife to get some hair gel and and a packet of cutie tips I shout at the dogs not on the roof where they cant get me but on the street. I shout shoo shoo and they go away immediately with thier tails between there legs.

    Then I look them in the eye, and all this while the bikers across the street keep quite, they know who I am.

    I need a shovel --its knee deep in ******** round here.
     
  11. Yobarnacle
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    Yobarnacle Senior Member holding true course

    frosty,
    are you trying to pick a insult fight with me? :D
     
  12. Frosty

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    Me!! oh no, never would I do that.

    PS its an insult not a insult.

    Vowels A,E,I,O,U make the word start with 'an'

    Like if I wanted to say you are a nut to someone I would use 'a nut' or as in you are an idiot I would use 'an'.:D
     
  13. Yobarnacle
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    well, frosty,
    Since I don't know you or much about you, I'll decline to bandy insults with you. You did hint your political leanings are socialist, and that would explain a lot of your animosity toward american ideals. Your prejudices colored your interpretation of what I wrote. Anyway I was responding to Troy2000's post about dogs. I can't figure out what your references to PJ's and pink panther, and cutie tips were intended to be about. So, I figure it's just bitterness about something. Bangkok's a interesting place. Was there twice about 40 years ago. Liked the green iced mangos with salt sold on the street and the durian. Pretty girls, too.
     
  14. Yobarnacle
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    Haha. Yes, my finger skips rapidly across the keyboard and all sorts of typographical errors happen. I only cursorily proofread before hitting "post". I wasn't expecting critique of either ny typing or my grammar. Is it important, do you think?
     

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    Thing I liked most about Bangkok was the canoes with the long shafted motor balanced on the stern. I spent many hours renting those canoes so I could cox'n racing up and down the river. Somebody was selling engines based on that design a few dozen years back. Called em "GoDevils" I recall. Do they still do that in Bankok? I imagine a lot has changed in 40+ years.
     
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