Seaworthiness

Discussion in 'Stability' started by Guillermo, Nov 26, 2006.

  1. TeddyDiver
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    No when you get the same with 16€.. http://www.evs.ee/ :)
     
  2. Raggi_Thor
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  3. Guillermo
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    Guillermo Ingeniero Naval

    Good question. I wish her the best of lucks.
    Cheers.
     
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    hoytedow Fly on the Wall - Miss ddt yet?

    Thank God she is ok, though her boat got smacked up a bit.
     
  5. julleras
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    julleras Junior Member

    Unseaworthy, by all standards

    One thing is to have a crew of 8 in one of those boats, other is going solo on a flat, low stability boat. This proves again that going to dangerous waters in an unsafe vessel is really dangerous, and life threatening.

    Fortunately she has survived this dangerous quest for glory.
     
  6. Brent Swain
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    Brent Swain Member

    These are boats designed by the most modern and most worshipped 'Experts" of today.
     
  7. apex1

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    Yes Brent,

    but not to circumnavigate single handed!:)

    Like yours.............
     
  8. Brent Swain
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    Brent Swain Member

    You are right. They are designed with the assumption that they will have a large crew with a change in helmsmen every hour or two, and have a support crew waiting for them in their next port.
     
  9. Steve W
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    You guys have it wrong,the open 40s 50s and 60s are designed for exactly this purpose,ie short handed offshore racing in the southern ocean, BUT,they require a higher level of skill than the average cruiser can muster,the boat didnt fail her,she lost the rig,it happens to a lot of boats light or heavy,fast or slow,balanced hull or not.The boat is upright,afloat,not sinking,unfortunatly,from the picture ive seen it does not look like she was left with anything to fashion a jury rig out of.
    Steve.
     
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  10. peter radclyffe
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    peter radclyffe Senior Member

    they also require sound engineering
     
  11. Guest62110524

    Guest62110524 Previous Member

    dead right,
    I did some work earlier on CAROLINA, In Around Alone race, not an open 40, but looked so fragile , survived knockdown after Knockdown, Experienced skipper , that is all
    I was making a new solid vang for her, plus tiller , the whole rudder set up was suss, I rang the race organiser and said"I do not think she is seaworthy" his reply
    "Robin is a very experienced seaman" and so he proved He left Auckalnd well behind, but did finish
    Its not the boats but the men(woman in em) old adage
    i do not think to my knowledge there has been an open 40 lost? til now?
    Open 60 yes
     
  12. Guest62110524

    Guest62110524 Previous Member

    wrong, open 40,s open 60,s are one man , woman boats, designed that way
     
  13. Pierre R
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    Pierre R Senior Member

    Saying that the open 40 is designed for single handed racing in the southern ocean is saying exactly what?

    Is it saying that the boat is strong enough to withstand a sinking?
    Is it saying that the boat is capable of delivering its occupant to safety?
    Is it saying that the boat is safe from the standpoint of occupant injury?
    Is it saying that the boat is less fatiguing than most?


    I did a few quick calculations a even with a lot of gear the boat has to have a high heave factor. What that says to me is that the boat is going to tax its occupant in a big physiological way. I would think the Open 40 would require both a high level of physical conditioning and a high level of endurance.

    The problem with teens is that they can have a high level of physical conditioning but their bodies lack the ability to develop a high level of endurance. Once extremely tired and cold, mistakes will be made and catastrophe can result. Adults usually do not develop their full endurance capability till the mid 20's.

    The point still remains. Seaworthiness is man and machine so was this boat a good pick for a teen?
     
  14. Pierre R
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    Pierre R Senior Member

    I see basically two types of posters in these forums. Those who have been reduced by the sea to a miserable humiliating bare existance and those who think they have been in rough seas.

    Those who have been humbled by the sea always put ergonimics and heave characteristics very high on there list when it comes to compromise. These people will choose simplicity and proven design over the best computer fantasies and designs out there. It only takes once and the difference in attitude is clear.
     

  15. apex1

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    Bravo,

    fully concur.
     
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