rescue subs

bntii,

yer right I am a new poster and I certainly did not mean to minimize a very real problem. I am sorry if you took it that way. I was simply defending the tinkering rights of the majority who would use such a vessel for recreational or industrial purposes. and maybe I read Commander Allen's statement wrong and should have read that those specific vessels (the drug smugglers) have no legitimate use. not personal subs in general.

I've no doubt Thad Allen knows much more about boats than I do. This is after all in the catagory "open discussion"

I guess I have too much time on my hands, but if I didn't would I be considering a cartop sailing pram?

 

Thanks Matt,

I came here with a question and got several answers.

 

I would like just to make a little correction. When you are under water in a sub and the weather is rough, unless you are very deep, it is like been on an airplane thru a very bad turbulances. It is absolutly bad and its completly unstable, correction has to be made constently.
And when the sub surface, I agree with you.
Just that.
Cheers
Daniel

 

The small personal sub is some kind of dream. Normally if you go in a serious poersonal dry sub, not a toy sub, you have a lot in your hand, taking care of all the system to go where you want to go, in a clostrophobic envellop, with bizarre noises all around, plus the loud bang you can ear time to time, plus the soudain irrational motion, the whole trip will make you piuck.
It is the reason why they don't sell very well. When the billionaire prospective client go inside, he come back ready to go to the hospital.
Try, it is interresting. Do not eat before, and stay brave and close your mouth what ever happens.
Good luck
Cheers
Daniel

 

Best meal before a sub ride: bananas-they taste the same coming up as they did going down.

 

Paul No Boat,

Great question but I can't see it happening for reasons already given.

Keep brain storming though!!

-Tom

 

So true

 

I can see the reasons you have all stated. Thing is I don't have any experience with subs other than touring one at a museum and seeing the decomissioned ones on display at Bremerton.

I would like to think tho that a rescue team would consider every available option and if a boat is about to go under and the helos are 200 miles away and a sub is 10 miles away they would at least stick close, if for no other reason but to scare the sharks away.

I guess it was a dumb idea but hey some people thought Jack Northrup was nuts when he came up with the flying wing in 1942 and now we have the B2 bomber. Maybe someday a rescue craft will be submersable so as to make the trip out there a little safer than getting the SAR team sunk as well.

Until then I thank them for doing what they do with what they have to do it with.

 

90% of most CG Rescues on the West Coast of the US happen in less then 30 feet of water.

I dont think a sub is a good idea in 30 feet of water with 10 foot waves.

K9
Ex USCG Coxswain.

 

Good point

 

But dont stop thinking Paul. Who would have ever thought of something so silly yet so usefull as the Breechesbouy.

http://www.schoonerman.com/sailingterms/breeches_buoy.htm

K9

 

Thanks, K9 Thinking is my worst habit. lol and yer right that bouy must have seemed pretty silly until they got the hang of it. now it's a lifesaver. bouys will be bouys

 

I spent about 11 years submerged (at about 3 month intervals) and I can tell you unless your real deep your going to at the very least have a hard time keeping depth when shallower that 200' down, on the surface even small waves give huge angles compared to a surface ship the same size. For example we were coming into Puget Sound in a sea state 2 and were taking 15-20 degree rolls much sea sickness all around, all that on a boat just short of 300'. The "life sub" might have some merit though imho.

 

Forgive me, guys. My only experiance with rescues is what I have seen on television. I am sure it is a lot different when you are actually out there.

but I always wondered and my question has been answered. Thank you.

 

I have wondered about this.

My thinking was that challenges would include stability issues as the sub travels through laminar flows based on haloclines and thermolclines near any tidal body. I had not guessed that the surface turbulence would print so low.

No easy task to control these subs it looks like.