Repower in Canada? (emissions)

Discussion in 'Diesel Engines' started by geste, Jan 12, 2016.

  1. geste
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    geste Junior Member

    Having a refit and repower performed just a bit north of here (Seattle) in Canada could be very cost-effective due to prevailing exchange rates. Or so it seems.

    As an example, take a Hyundai-Seasall D170P with gear selling for ~$25K in CDN, so about $18K USD. Most of the marinized diesels in the 100-200 bhp range available locally seem to all hover around $25K USD and the number of other choices is small (mostly Volvo-Penta and Yanmar).

    If I could get the same Hyundais from the US distributor for the same $18K USD, that would change the picture, but there are a lot of other elements of the project that could be done less money in British Columbia..

    Question: That Hyundai-Seasall D170P is EPA Tier 3 compliant in the US. Would that change if I sourced the engine in Canada? I looked at the EPA site but couldn't find something this specific. How could I, on the engine/emissions front, get bit in the butt if I went this route?

    Thanks in advance for any pointers.

    Jim
     
  2. viking north
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    viking north VINLAND

    Mmmm I would do my homework on this one. Often the distributors on both sides of the border of the exact same product lobby and rely on government regulations to protect their territory. A good example of this here in Canada was wood burning stoves. In past years while a stove might have a UL certification number, in Canada if it did not also have a C.S.A. (Canadian Standards Assoc.) number attached, it would not pass the new requirement of a Wetts inspection. As a result insurance companies would not insure or cancel your house fire policy. This was a new over night government fire regulation and as a result thousands of perfectly safe U.L. rated stoves were thrown in the garbage. In the past few years regulators have finally come to their senses and now either U.L., CSA, or both is fully compliant. Now doubt succumbing to pressure of stove manufacturers in both countries. However since your product is not manufactured in either country and most likely independently imported , it could be subject to some weird and wonderful regulations.
     
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  3. FAST FRED
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    FAST FRED Senior Member

    Why not send the existing engine to a good machine shop for a rebuild?

    The rebuild can be optimised for the actual use of the boat.

    usually a racing style ballance job will resuly in a far quieter smoother engine than brand new.
     
  4. geste
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    geste Junior Member

    @viking north

    Thanks for your informative reply. The type of jam you recount is exactly the type of jam I want to avoid. I am going to keep poking about. I might even write a letter on real paper, pose some specific questions, the send it to the EPA via US Mail.

    Jim
     
  5. hoytedow
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    hoytedow Wood Butcher

    Careful. The EPA frowns on people using things made from trees(paper). They might put you on some kind of list. :rolleyes:
     
  6. geste
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    geste Junior Member

    I like dead-tree paper and USPS snail mail. Give me the EPA over the NSA.
     
  7. FAST FRED
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    FAST FRED Senior Member

    " Give me the EPA over the NSA."

    But the NSA can retrieve your E mail for the past decade if your computer fails!
     

  8. Lepke
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    Lepke Junior Member

    I believe the tier requirements are for commercial use engines. Why not ask someone in the US that sells engines or rebuilds, what's legal? What you want may be here: http://www3.epa.gov/otaq/marine.htm
     
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