REALLY small cruisers...

Discussion in 'Boat Design' started by Sean Herron, Oct 10, 2005.

  1. Sean Herron
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    Hello...

    I think I have been here before - but I just got rid of my last American big eight (a 1979 Pontiac Parisienne) and got a little Japanese pocket rocket - difference of nearly $120.00 a month in fuel costs...

    I am also thinking about how my current boat sucks money out of my account just to float tied up to the slip - I get out 3 to 4 times a week - but during the rainy winters and being physically tired on workdays it really does not justify its size - plus the sailing grounds are the same same...

    The local dinghy club will not allow boats with a cabin to be stored - so whats left - a micro cruiser on a trailer that is micro enough to be pulled by a micro Toyoto - hmmm...

    I am even considering sailing canoes or tris - what is happening to me....:)

    I think I would like to start up a 'MICRO Cruiser' bit here - from sailing kayaks to small cabin cruisers to crazy little multis and cartoppers...

    It is a real challenge to design around 'the absolute minimum I will put up with - ability to pour a drink and cup holders are the base'...:)

    Hmmmm....

    SH.
     

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  3. Seafarer24
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    Bateau Boats has something similar:

    Adelie 14 (picture/link)
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    Adelie 16 (picture/link)
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    Personally, I'd prefer a rig with a mast that sits further aft and has the mainsheet on a traveler at the end of the cockpit. A jib on the nose and sprit with a reacher or spinnaker would round out the package.
     
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    I think you are onto something with your Mug14 :)
    How will it sail?
     
  7. sharpii2
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    How about rental sailboats?

    If I paid $50.00 everytime I went out, I would still be money ahead.

    I have even gone as far as drawing a proposed rental boat with my plyboats program. I call it a ST. Clair 18. It is an open, hard chined full keeled cat boat with a boomed setee sail. I went with the full keel to get shallower draft without resorting to a centerboard (something else to break or get missused). The full keel is also expected to protect the expensive four stroke auxiliary outboard. It would, of course, have full level floatation. The idea was to make a boat 'seaworthy' enough for lake St. Claire, which can get surprisingly nasty at times, and yet be quickly lifted out of the water by a long tined fork lift and put away.

    The mast would fold down and have no stays or shrouds.

    The idea was also to make it simple, sturdy, seaworthy, and cheap and be able to easily be able to carry six two hundred pounders without undo hardship or safety concerns.

    I wounder if any such venture has ever been succesful in recent times.

    Trailering seems to be too big a hassle for casual use, but with a quickly callapseable rig and really good trailer design I suppose it may be possible. Many working watermen in the 19th century had pretty much the same problem. No (affordable) natural harbors.

    Bob
     
  8. Bergalia
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    REALLY small cruisers

    As the say on TV cook programmes: 'Here's one I did earlier...'
    Some 35 years earlier. Called the Hobbit (I know, corny - but the book was 'all the rage' at the time) she was made from wood salvaged from a Victorian wardrobe. Six feet long, four feet wide with a draught of six inches - though for stability I installed a five foot retractable daggerboard with a sixty pound lead weight on the bottom. (Alas in choppy conditions it acted like a pendulum...). On a good day she could crack along at 4 knots. And of course I had provision for oars should I meet calm weather (har bleedin har) in the northern climes. For protection from the unending rain and sleet you will note tha addition of an old pram cover.
    It stemmed, as many things do, from a drunken bet. (Whisky - without the 'e') when, during a conversation on the aardvaark, for some reason or other I suggested it was possible to cross Loch Ness in a wardrobe.
    By morning I was informed that I had extended the bet to a modest sea crossing - the mainland to the Island of Rhum (note the 'spiritual' references here).
    In short, Celtic pride (the Japanese call it kamakazee ) I determined to sail from Inverness to Fort William the long way around. North to John O'Groats, and westward into the setting sun, then south through the Hebrides to Fort William. (For all you doubters - NO I didn't use the Caledonian Canal).
    It was trip which took six weeks - and was followed with interest by TV and newspaper journalists who spent much of their time updating my obituary. The attached picture is taken from one of their accounts.
    Really small cruisers ? As we 'new' Aussies say - 'Been there, done that....' But never again. That's me in the white hat - when I had hair (before the trip). The youth is my son - then 10 - now 37... where has my youth gone ? Please ring home.... :(
     

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  9. Sean Herron
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    Doh - you get the beer...

    Hello...

    Here is some 'vernacular'...

    Nice Berg'...

    Cheers...

    SH.
     

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    My "little one"

    Been playing around with this... not a cruiser though
     

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    Micronautics?

    There is a big group of tiny boats and big toys including kayaks, canoes, dinghies, moths, windsurfers etc. that have a lot in common - mainly the importance of their operator and the fact they are built 'around' the operator...
    I propose to call the science of designing such small watercrafts 'Micronautics'.

    This is the first 'W' contribution to micronautics in sailing :): http://www.wavewalk.com/SAILING.html
    And this is a gallery of possible micronautical designs based on the W concept: http://www.wavewalk.com/BOAT%20DESIGN%20GALLERY.html

    Yoav
     
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    Here's one I'm in the middle of building now. 11.5 x 4 ft, sleeping accomodations for one. Looking at a Gaff rig right now. Hoping to see water at Rend lake in June.

    Steve
     

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  15. Sean Herron
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    Sean Herron Senior Member

    Squeeze more whiskey into that there glass...

    Hello...

    Just mucking about - as always...

    I am getting excited and turned on by (buy) this thingee - it does require the sale of my existing boat and the re-zero of my VISA card...:)

    Lewis - cool to see you off on real production - your 'poddy' probably has a better chance against a log strike than my trimaran with '****' visability - good luck...

    Cheers...

    SH.
     

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