Quick, Easy 3-Man Canoe Plans

Discussion in 'Boat Design' started by Submarine Tom, Jan 26, 2013.

  1. Submarine Tom

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    Okay, 3/4" X 3/4" gunwales lashed to the bulkheads along with the rest of the stringers.
     
  2. Petros
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    I would make the gunwales 1-1/2x3/4, and than use 3/4x3/4 for everything else. the chine stringers do not need to run the full length since the front and back they will curve inward to form the bow and stern, so you will not need as much length. This will give you a stronger hull with the larger gunwale stringers, also less cutting to leave the gunwale stringers the 1.5" dept of the 2x4.

    I have built skin on frame with as little as 4 stringers, two gunwale and two chine, but 5 makes for a better hull shape (with a fifth keel stringer).

    That is a lot of ripping with hand tools, you better have a nice quality and sharp hand saw, and take turns sawing to you do not get everyone tired out. I would practice that to make sure you have enough time, things like that eat time up faster than you might think.
     
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    That was why I suggested furring strips, which are about 98 cents apiece for 8' strip.
     
  4. Submarine Tom

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    I'll double check Hoyt, but last I checked, ripping 2X4's was cheaper by far.
     
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    Maybe so but I was thinking of the time it will take with a rip toothed hand saw. Be sure not to try it with cross-cut hand saw. :)
     
  6. Submarine Tom

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    Yah, I'm all over the time management.

    My crew are young and fit and will have little else to do at that point of the build.

    New ripping saws. It's where part of our sponsorship money's going.
     
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    Those hand tools will keep 'em fit. :)
     
  8. Submarine Tom

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    20% cheaper to rip 2X4's than 1X4's.

    OR

    25% more to rip 1X4's than 2X4's.

    All depends on your point of perspective.

    Plus, they often have 2X4's on sale so it could be even a bigger delta $.
     
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    Hey, Tom. Copy and paste.
     

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  10. Submarine Tom

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    LMAO!

    Thanks Hoyt!

    Too f-ing funny!
     
  11. Submarine Tom

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    How might this perform with close to one HP (~600watts) over a 300 meter course with two 120 degree turns?

    24' X 16"

    6" draft, 3" freeboard, sealed sit on top

    680 pounds gross

    Calm seas

    Bow left in drawing below.
     

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    Hoyte: thanks for the "Yankee Screwdriver" link. Just what Tom needs. Many folks have one stached away but there's often only one bit - the wrong one.

    The good news is, Lee Valley Tools sell an adaptor - available for all 3 sizes of Y-S - that takes regular 1/4" bits, most folk have dozens of those. Price is around $7.50 plus shipping if you don't have a store nearby.

    I just found out about it. I have an ancient but perfectly functional Y-S with the usual single bit, for slot screws in my case, and as a Canuck I rejoice because now I will be able to use the Y-S on Robinson screws, so much nicer to use than Phillips and Posidrive IMHO. I believe you can get Robinsons in the US: must be getting quite civilized down there these days . . .

    Gotta go, I'm off to Lee Valley Tools -

    Terry
     
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    Lately we even have indoor plumbing. :)
     
  14. Submarine Tom

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    Nice to see you back Terry.

    That would be Robertson drives, not Robinson.

    I do have a Lee Valley just ten minutes away!

    Still not available at West Marine in Canada interestingly enough.

    Hoyt, indoor plumbing you say!

    Any HOT running water yet?

    I always knew you were a closet troll.
     

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    It's Florida, Man! Everything is hot!
     
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