Our Oceans are Under Attack

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  1. ImaginaryNumber
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    True Altruism: Can Humans Change To Save Other Species? | Environment 360
     
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    Other species will last much better when properly frozen, pickled or salted.
     
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_NVy4PJwYE

    Bill Gates: Future of Food is "Beyond Meat" (Vegan)

    http://www.fastcoexist.com/1681647/...l-gates-thinks-are-shaping-the-future-of-food

    The 3 Companies That Bill Gates Thinks Are Shaping The Future Of Food
    If Gates has his way we’re going beyond eggs and meat, using new substitutes that taste the same but that we can make in a lab instead of a farm, so we can feed the entire planet. And then we’re also going to make salt healthy, while we’re at it
    In the Future of Food, a new interactive piece on the Gates Notes, Gates lists companies that he believes are "creating healthful plant-based alternatives that taste just like eggs, chicken, and other sources of protein." Take note: Beyond Meat, Hampton Creek, and Nu-Tek Food Science could be the big names in tomorrow’s food industry.
     
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    Perfecting the illusion
    Bill Gates has just published a new feature on The Gates Notes, his blog. It's all about alternatives to animal meat that could meet humanity's growing demand for meat over the next decades without all of the environmental and ethical problems caused by our current factory farming system.

    http://www.treehugger.com/sustainable-agriculture/bill-gates-thinks-fake-meat-future.html

    With plans to give away $60 billion, Bill and Melinda Gates have now become the most generous philanthropists in the world.
    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-gates-foundation-giving-away-a-fortune/
     

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    Yobarnacle would have nothing to say on the thread without your posts. He is defending his side of the argument when you and myark keep posting this crap. Anyway I have the option of ignoring this thread which I will from now on. And I prefer a cup of tea to warm milk thanks.
     
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    There is actually meat in sausages ? :eek: I'd have thought most contain matter of indeterminate origin ! :D
     
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    No, they're fine if you shoot the nice cute furry animals first, then process them into mince yourself.

    Wallabies are really good, but the meat is pretty dry, so it's best to add some nice pork fat or fatty bacon to the mix. Add herbs & spices to taste. I've been feeding the wallabies round here all the soft apples from last season. Makes for better tasting meat and they're a lot easier to shoot as well when they come up to the kitchen window.

    Summer is almost here, I can smell that lovely burnt meat smell now!

    PDW
     
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    They tell me roos are full of worms, cook well !
     
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    It has been said that the single most effective thing one can do to combat climate change is to stop consuming meat and dairy - there's truth to that

    New Zealand's meat addiction

    Vegetarians make up a small proportion of New Zealand's population but numbers are increasing. In 2002 it was estimated that vegetarians made up one to two percent of our population, whereas the estimate now is closer to four percent. The likelihood of people becoming vegetarian also seems to be higher among young adults - particularly women.

    The reduction in our meat intake a may be more necessary than we all realise - New Zealand is the fourth largest consumer of meat per capita in the world, eating a whopping 115.7kg of meat per person per year - nearly three times the world average. But what is all this doing to our environment?

    Livestock is one of New Zealand's greatest contributors to greenhouse gases and, with global meat production projected to increase to 465 million tonnes in 2050, it is something that perhaps we all need to think about. According to an Oxford study published this year, meat eaters in the United Kingdom produce as many as two and a half times the greenhouse gas emissions than their vegan counterparts.

    It's not only the greenhouse gases that we meat-eaters are impacting, there is also the issue of water consumption (leaving aside the environmental impacts of stock effluent).

    According to the Water Footprint Network, every kilogram of beef produced uses 15,000 litres of water, compared to a kilogram of pulses (4000l), cereals (1600l) and vegetables (322l). Sheep meat comes in at almost 9000l, pig meat at 6000l and chicken meat at 4300l.

    Moving beyond meat

    These statistics have not gone unnoticed in the technological world, with major figures like Bill Gates and the cofounders of Twitter getting behind projects such as Beyond Meat - a company which is developing and selling new, plant-based protein 'meats'.

    Beyond Meat is the brainchild of Ethan Brown, who is working to answer the question- would we continue to raise and eat animals in such staggering numbers if a perfect plant-based replication of meat existed? It's gaining traction in the US, and has been tested on many chefs and food connoisseurs who have been unable to tell the difference between the meat substitute and the real thing.

    But Beyond Meat isn't just aiming at providing a new meat substitute, it's looking to redefine what we see when we walk into a supermarket. Ethan Brown's vision is that we no longer have a meat counter when we go to the supermarket but, rather, a protein counter.

    Plant-based substitutes may not be our only option in the future. There is also research being supported by the co-founder of Google, Sergei Brin, to create lab-grown meats. Here the meat would come from the stem cells of animals and be grown in a lab to recreate muscle fibres.

    This was achieved by Netherland scientists last year, and was eaten as a hamburger made of pure muscle protein. The projections for this type of meat is that it will be on supermarket shelves in the next five to ten years, so plant-based analogues may not be the only option for consumers.

    There is, however, a more palatable third - and somewhat of a stop-gap - option: that of 'weekday vegetarianism'. Graham Hill, the founder of Treehugger, introduced this practice in his TedX talk in California in 2010. He said, knowing what he knows about the impacts of meat consumption - how could he not be a vegetarian?

    Unable to give up his precious hamburgers, Hill instead chose to become a weekday vegetarian, sticking to the plants from Monday to Friday, and giving himself free reign on the weekends, a reduction of meat intake by 70 percent.

    The Tech-Food Crossover

    Global tech tycoons with an interest in funding plant-based or alternative proteins:

    • Funders of Hampton Creek Foods and Beyond Eggs - a plant-based egg substitute: Bill Gates (Microsoft founder, philanthropist), Jerry Yang (Yahoo co-founder), Jessica Powell (Google), Li Ka Shing (Horizon Ventures), Vinod Khosla (Khosla Ventures)

    • Funders of Beyond Meat - a plant-based meat substitute: Bill Gates, Evan Williams (Twitter founder), Vinod Khosla

    • Funders of Modern Meadows, creator of the 3D printed hamburger: Peter Thiel (Paypal founder)

    • Funder of a lab-grown hamburger: Sergey Brin (Google co-founder)
     
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    Does this mean I have no further use for the mint sauce ?
     
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    Chris Morejohn is a forum member who has posted about his cruising sharpie, Hogfish Maximus. He has a blog in which he writes about his experiences as a boat designer and builder, as well as his experiences sailing. In the last few years he has also been carving and painting models of some of the local fish to sell to tourists. In a recent blog he talks about the decline in big breeding fish in the Bahamas.
     
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    There are 67 grouper recipes featured on Cooks.com. The Food Network website has 66. The fish prized for its mild, high-quality flesh. One of Florida's most popular fish, grouper is a main target for sport fishing.

    But as with other fish, its popularity will be its downfall. According to a new report by the International Union for Conservation of Nature (IUCN) Species Survival Commission, 20 species of grouper (12 percent) are at risk of extinction due to overfishing.
    "Fish are one of the last animal resources commercially harvested from the wild by humans, and groupers are among the most desirable fishes," said Dr. Luiz Rocha, Curator of Ichthyology at the California Academy of Sciences
    "Unfortunately, the false perception that marine resources are infinite is still common in our society, and in order to preserve groupers and other marine resources we need to reverse this old mentality."
    An even better alternative? Join former president Bill Clinton, Andre 3000, Casey Affleck, Erykah Badu, Alec Baldwin, Ed Begley Jr., Ellen DeGeneres, Emily Deschanel, Woody Harrelson, Chrissie Hynde, Anthony Kiedis, Joaquin Phoenix, Brad Pitt, Russell Simmons and the growing number of people who have made the most ethical dietary choice of them all: veganism.

    http://www.mercyforanimals.org/calves/
     
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    We can take all the fish out of the oceans, cut down all the rainforests, use plastic bags and drink bottled water. We can experiment on, wear and eat other species. We can use pesticides and antibacterial soap and products tested on animals. We can eat out of season by buying food that comes from thousands of miles away. We can drive big cars and live in big homes. But even a cursory assessment of the rational or moral basis for doing these things clearly shows that we really shouldn't be doing any of it. These behaviors are unnecessary. And all of them have grave consequences.
    Indeed, we are the first species to have changed the Earth's environment and atmosphere. That is no small feat. And as a result, the 21st century will likely see a tipping point, a culmination of centuries of human civilization. Without enough food to feed the human population, with rainforests cut down to make room for livestock, with higher surface temperatures and a rising sea from melting glaciers and polar ice caps, it is going to go from bad to worse in a very short period of time.

    A 1999 Cornell University study found that without "democratically determined population-control practices and sound resource-management policies...12 billion miserable humans will suffer a difficult life on Earth by the year 2100."

    Most of us won't be around for that. But make no mistake -- the decisions that we make today will most certainly affect those who will.
     

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