Our Oceans are Under Attack

Or let us not pay a carbon tax just so the manipulators can enhance their wealth while they reduce us to serfdom.

The reason CO2 costs so much to capture is because it is so rare. How much is a unicorn worth? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EPsuOEH1fY

 

Let's see... It took you all of three minutes to read my post, read the four links I gave, plus read the links within the links, and then find the YouTube link and type up your reply.

Clearly, you find it much easier to bleat than to read and think.

 

That was a rather sheepish reply. Too Baaaaaad.

Besides, it doesn't take long to flush crap.

 

Greenland Ice Sheet more vulnerable to climate change than previously thought – ‘Extreme meteorological events, such as heavy rainfall and heat waves, can have a large effect on the rate of ice loss’ | Desdemona Despair

 

http://www.medindia.net/news/Volcano-Deep-Down-Could-Be-Melting-Greenlands-Ice-30702-1.htm

"A thin spot in the Earth's crust is enabling underground magma to melt Greenland's ice, scientists at the Ohio State University feel.

According to them, the "hotspot" is located in the northeast corner of Greenland -- just below a site where an ice stream was recently discovered."

Read more: Volcano Deep Down Could Be Melting Greenland’s Ice http://www.medindia.net/news/volcan...ting-greenlands-ice-30702-1.htm#ixzz3G2A0fule

Now that's a heat wave!

I would have answered sooner, but I have other tasks to accomplish away from the keyboard. I hope I didn't break your stopwatch.

 

I didn't say ALL biologists know, nor did I say SOME biologists know. If you take "biologists know" as a blanket statement, it would be an exaggeration.
But reference to there being "stops" or "barriers" is a myth?
Variation within species (small changes) accumulate evolving to other species with different morphologies? Verified or speculation?
Size limiters aren't found in genomes?
Hybrids from "related" species (subspecies) aren't most often sterile?
Unrelated species can't breed at all, a myth?
Test specie populations in laboratories after artificially inducing mutations, don't revert in a few generations to original form when left unmolested?
Most mutations (birth defects) aren't harmful?
Other limits and barriers I haven't mentioned?
Biologists either know these things, or these are myths, or some biologists DENY these are important to biology.
OR, they think there were "leaks"!
Once long ago, limiters didn't exist or were less enveloping, less stringent, less universal, was somewhat sieve like, allowing some GOOD anomalies to occur and flourish?
Excuse me!
But isn't OBSERVED reality science, and belief in imagined "un-natural" exceptions to observed reality, based on FAITH? Or fantasy?

The BIG question arising if limits are relatively recent and formerly a LACK of stringent limits permitted evolution, then that was an early beneficial trait, would you agree?
Even if evolution is still occurring the question is:
Then how or more importantly WHY did current observable LIMITS evolve?
Did all-wise accidental randomness decided specie evolved enough? Time to restrict the process? Change the rules?
Random gets credit for a lot of wisdom I don't think it deserves since it's a non-entity and unthinking.
Especially in the DESIGN of everything!

 

Are we there yet?

 

In a related story: http://www.medindia.net/news/dna-sa...s-much-warmer-during-last-ice-age-23187-1.htm

"Ancient DNA samples recovered from the bottom of a two-kilometre thick ice sheet in Greenland has shown that the island was much warmer at some point during the last Ice Age than previously believed."

Read more: DNA Sample Suggests Greenland was Much Warmer During Last Ice Age http://www.medindia.net/news/dna-sa...during-last-ice-age-23187-1.htm#ixzz3G2LNkGNb

 

Not yet.

 

http://bigcatrescue.org/liger-facts/

"A liger is the result of breeding a male lion to a tigress. A tigon is the result of breeding a male tiger to a lioness. Since lions and tigers do not exist in the same areas, this is not something that happens in the wild. It is done in captivity by disreputable carnies to produce a freak that ignorant people will pay to see. These cats suffer from many birth defects and usually die young. Because ligers are usually larger than either parent, it also puts the tigress at great risk in carrying the young and may require C-section deliveries or kill her in the process."


"A tigon is the product of a male tiger and female lion. They receive growth inhibitor genes from both parents and so are smaller than either of them. They show much the same coloration of ligers except they sometimes have more distinct stripes. As with ligers the females are fertile whereas the males are sterile. "

Ligers are HUGE because the growth, size limiter genes are carried by the male in tigers and female in lions.
Crossing a male lion to female tiger, no size limiters are passed.

 

Wise a well as crochety!

 

No.

Longest Forum Thread ever?

So we have quite a way to go yet.

 

I realise how the legislative process works. However it is perfectly legal, and fairly common, for your president to address the people when he thinks it is relevant. That is what I was suggesting, not unilateral enactment of legislation. And you can further assume that any such proposal would have to have the backing of the relevant party first. Not that any of this matters to the issue at hand.

Ok, I was having a bit of fun sending up conservative stereotypes. If you want it without the send up it'd be "Assume a government that you find basically tolerable...". My point was to get you to consider the issue on its own merits, instead of conflating it with a raft of other issues.

Funnily enough, there are other countries that manage to have one without economic death. They have trucks too.

Anyway, since I did specifically ask you if you saw the scenario as a threat to the Constitution or anything else and you only mentioned the economic ramifications, can we now agree that such a tax would not in itself be any threat to civil liberties, or anything else?

 

I'm a bot. So this thread won't ever qualify as longest. Bot =buster of theories. Actually I'm about. Barnacles hang around and about. About=a buster of unreasonable theories.

 

Without any qualifiers, it is a blanket statement. That's how language works. And yes, that does mean you exaggerated.

Depends what you mean by "reference to there being 'stops' or 'barriers'". I have little doubt that what you are thinking of is a mythologised version of actual biology.

Verified, although as a creationist you probably won't believe it.

No, not really. Some genomes are huge compared to ours. I suspect you are getting confused about telomeres, which is not a "size limiter" in the sense that you appear to mean it.

Depends how closely related they are.

No, that one is not a myth, but how is it relevant?

Not always, especially if you change the conditions they are living under.

Anything classified as a "defect" is obviously likely to be harmful. However, most mutations appear to be pretty neutral, IIRC. Often you don't even notice them.

Like what?

The rest of your post is too incoherent. You'll have to be more clear and specific about what you mean.