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It's not as simple as that, and can't be "dismissed" as 'that explains it all", but those sentiments ARE real. I believe in contingency planning. But I'd rather take the risk of the future warming uncomfortably than the guaranteed economic disaster proposed to circumvent it.
You might say the future belongs to the young, so let them decide. Nope.
They need the wisdom, traditions, and the caution of us older experienced folk, to keep them from rash irrevocable errors.
After I'm dead, my generation is dead, the responsibility is theirs.
If they then give up their freedoms, they can blame themselves.
I'm determined they'll still have the right to make that choice after we're gone..

 

Why should we seek your wisdom when you've been so consistently and demonstrably wrong about the science of Global Warming?

 

You don't seek or request it. You're STUCK with it. It's MORE my country than yours. I bled and shed blood for the USA. I won't idly see it destroyed for some "sky is falling" hysterics.

 

One man (or woman), one vote (unless you have the $$ to buy yourself a congressperson).

Since I live in a state with less population than the state you live in, my vote is actually slightly more powerful than your vote. And since you are so fond of settling disputes with force, my state has more guns per capita than your state. Fortunately, most of them are used for hunting and are not needed for self-defense.

(I see I've got guns worked into this post. Surely there is a way I can also work in "which anchor" and "monohulls vs multihulls" as well )

 

I'm gathering data and physicist's opinions to refute your squelched radiation dispersal at atmosphere/space interface.
2nd law of thermodynamics (entropy) applies, but i'll get it all together first, then post.

 

Yeah? Florida is winner take all. Simple majority gets all 29 electoral votes.
Makes us one of a few fulcrum states.

Who knows how many unregistered firearms we have? More than registered ones.

 

http://prorev.com/dumbing.htm
"Scale plays an important role in entropy. Roughly speaking, the larger a system or institution, the more wasted energy. This applies to governments, corporate bureaucracies, or the limousines their leaders ride. Part of this is due to the fact that as a system becomes larger, a proportionately greater amount of energy has to be devoted to keeping the system alive rather than doing what the system is meant to be doing."

Hmmm. A progressive article I agree mostly with!
I feel ill.
I'll take two aspirin, and check my temperature.

 

You may have Ebola.

 

Is that wishful?

 

I have been following this thread for a while now and can't help thinking that although I believe that global warming is real and that we are the culprits, a solution that does not involve yet another political construct like a carbon tax is at hand . Call me simple and a hopeless optimist but I believe that the planet is about to become a much better place . Since man left ``Eden`` and planted his first seed, the ready access to cheap energy and information, has been the main driver of the worlds economies and the prosperity of their inhabitants. I believe we are about to exit the ``petro age`` and enter the ``solar electric internet age``. The photo electric cell, the electric motor, unprecedented personal computing power, the internet, and perhaps to some degree 3D printing are about to change everything for all life on the planet. What will the world and the institutions of man look like when information and clean cheap energy are available to all?

 

welcome Timothy

 

No, and I have already said I'm not disputing that Lewis wrote the letter. However, I was wondering what you were doing on that site. Your explanation is fair enough. If it was a site you frequented, I would have been wondering about your sanity (which I agree is a separate issue to Lewis).

No, not because he disagrees with me, but because he appears to be making statements which are demonstrably false.

Who are these "others"? Fox News? The matter was thoroughly investigated. No evidence of fraud was found. If you have such evidence, by all means present it.

Well if you were trained in science, perhaps you can explain why you kept dragging up a graph of ancient CO2 levels without taking into account the information on ancient solar output that was available on the same page.

When did I ever suggest this? I'm not disputing that he believes what he wrote, or that he has the right to change his opinion over time.

Nobody is stifling dissent. Hell, there's plenty of it all over the web. Nobody is being absolutist. People are just going with the weight of evidence.

 

What "guaranteed economic disaster"? I've posted several articles that laid out economic benefits from action on climate change. Some of them even apply if the temperature doesn't go up. In other words, we could act as if the changes are necessary, and still come out ahead even if they turn out to not be necessary.

 

I don't wish Ebola on anyone. I think the world will be very lucky if Ebola doesn't spread out of west Africa. This is a regional disaster, and could become a global disaster.

 

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