Our Oceans are Under Attack

Well this our difference in appreciation. Is normal to think different, I can't convince you and I not intend to do.
I can't still running around the same points ever.

 

I'm registered as independent and vote for least objectionable of the candidates at the time.

I am a strict constitutional constructionist. Constitution is my measuring scale. And have a BS degree (bachelor of science, not bull sh-t, in mathematics)

 

What I was pointing out in IPCC's own operating principles is FIRST came the presumptuous presumption that climate change eons old process is induced or caused by human activity. They're not proposing a hypothesis for study.
They consider THIS an irrefutable fact and guiding first principle.
THEN they seek scientific basis to support that conjecture.
The climate models they commissioned were designed to support that principle.

This is agenda driven science, agenda perverted science. NOT GOOD SCIENCE>

What is behind the insistence that man causes climate change?
The political agenda is and was to acquire power for the UN to tax industry in wealthy nations for the purpose of bribing dictators and corrupt bureaucrats in poor nations. The guise is aid to poor nations, but the aid doesn't escape politicians clutches.
Bribe them to do what? Maurice Strong was the driving personality behind the creation of IPCC and its first director. An avowed socialist, and indicted corrupt international gangster, he was stripped of his many service honor awards and forced to resign from UN over his corrupt UN program Oil for Food.
The bribes were to support socialist initiatives.

As to promises of objectivity, transparency, honesty?
I think lawyers call that boiler plate. In other words automatic always included bull crap.

 

If climatologists, by definition of their science by IPCC, are in the business of proving human induced climate change, you're only going to get AGW slanted data/POV from them. Tahdah! Simply amazing!

Those climatologists actually researching if humans are causing climate change, get dumped on by the AGWers when ever they publish anything contrary to the "consensus".

Since climate change affects the whole earth, why wouldn't other scientists, especially earth sciences, have valid opinions? I think they have MORE valid opinions being untainted by politicized objectives. Or hopefully LESS tainted!
Climatologists studying and tweaking their computer model crystal balls (designed and dedicated to support AGW) have no valid claim to know more than scientists studying actual events and phenomenon.

(Didn't I predict other scientists would be dismissed as "lesser" scientist? And us mere mortals don't have anything of value to say. Except when we VOTE to defund and eject these crooks! We need to out vote the high school dropouts voting for AGW programs.)

 

Whats wrong with high school drop outs ?


Bill Gates: He is the billionaire co-founder of Microsoft Corporation, the world largest software company. Dropped out of Harvard to focus on building Microsoft. According to Forbes magazine, Bill Gates has held the position of the world richest man for thirteen consecutive years and he not showing a sign of letting go that position.
Thomas Edison: Thomas Edison was labeled dumb and scatterbrain by his school teachers but he went on to become one of the world’s greatest inventors and founded General Electric; one of the most powerful companies in the world.
Orji Uzor Kalu: He is one of the richest men on the soil of Africa. This young billionaire was rusticated from college for his participation in a student’s protest. Instead of lamenting over his predicament; he started trading on palm oil and from that humble beginning, he grew his business into a conglomerate “Slok Group.” Though he was later pardoned by the school authorities, he rejected the amnesty offer thereby refusing to return to school.
Li Ka Shing: Billionaire owner of Hutchinson Whampoa; one of the largest conglomerates in Hong Kong, with operations that span over fifty countries and more than 220,000 staff worldwide. Dropped out of school at the age of 15 and started out by selling watch bands.
Richard Branson: Best known for his adventurous spirit and outrageous business tactics. He dropped out of school at the age of 16 to start his first successful business venture; Student Magazine, bought his own 79-acre Caribbean island when he was just 24 and he was knighted in 1999. He is the billionaire founder of the Virgin brand and its 360 companies. His companies include the famous Virgin Atlantic Airways.
Lawrence J. Ellison: Larry Ellison dropped out of college twice and was told by his adoptive father that he would never amount to anything but he went on to become a billionaire by building Oracle, the world’s second largest software company.
Michael Dell: He dropped out of college at the age of 19 to start PC’s Limited; later renamed Dell Computers Inc. Dell became the most profitable PC manufacturer in the world making Michael Dell a billionaire.
Steve Jobs: Billionaire co-founder of Apple Inc and Pixar; dropped out of Reed College to start Apple.
Henry Ford: This automobile billionaire was born in abject poverty. He never saw the four walls of school but he went on to build Ford Motor Company and become one of the richest men that ever lived.
Walt Disney: Walt, regarded as the most influential animator because of his creativity with cartoons. He dropped out of high school at 16 and founded Walt Disney; a company which now has an annual revenue of about $30billion.
Ray Kroc: Billionaire Ray Kroc never saw the four walls of school and spent most of his life working as a salesman. He bought McDonald’s in 1961 for $2.7m and grew it into a multi billion dollar company.
Debbi Fields: A 20 year old housewife with no education and business experience started Mrs. Fields Chocolate Chippery and became the most successful cookie company owner. She later renamed, franchised, and then sold Mrs. Field’s Cookies.
Cosmos Maduka: Nigerian Elementary school drop out and billionaire founder of the Coscharis Group.
Ingvar Kamprad: Billionaire founder of IKEA. He dropped out of high school at the age of 17 to start IKEA; now the top home furniture retailer in the world, with over 90,000 employees working in its 200-plus stores, and annual revenues in excess of $10 billion.
Carl Lindner: Billionaire investor and founder of United Dairy Farmers. He dropped out of high school at the age of 14 to deliver milk for his family diary.
Coco Chanel: Fashion magnate and founder of the Coco Chanel brand, she never saw the four walls of school.
Wayne Huizenga: Wayne is the only person in history to build three Fortune 1000 companies practically from scratch: Waste Management Inc, Blockbuster Entertainment and AutoNation. He is the only person to have developed six NYSE-listed companies. He also owns the Miami Dolphins and is previous owner of the Florida Marlins baseball team and the Panthers hockey team, making him the only person ever to own three pro teams in a single market, two of which won national championships. He dropped out of college to join a friend in a garbage collection business.
Barry Diller: This billionaire media magnate dropped out of college to start Fox Broadcasting Company. He is chairman of Expedia, and was once the CEO of IAC/InterActiveCorp which includes Home Shopping Network and Ticketmaster.
Andrew Carnegie: Founder of Carnegie Steel Company and one of the richest men that ever lived. Born in abject poverty, Andrew never saw the four walls of school.
Sir Philip Green: Billionaire retail mogul and owner of the Arcadia brand, he dropped out of school at the age of 16. After four business failures, Philip Green made his first million at the age of 33.
Madame C. J. Walker: She was born into the family of ex-slaves and farmers. Despite being widowed at the age of 20 and faced with extreme hardship, she started a cosmetics business and went on to become the first American self made female millionaire.
Mark Zuckerberg: The youngest billionaire in the world, dropped out of Harvard to promote his social networking platform; Facebook. As at 2010, he was 23 years and worth $4billion.
Ted Turner: Billionaire drop out media mogul and founder of CNN; pledged a billion dollars to the United Nation.

Cornelius Vanderbilt: Dropped out of school at the age of 11, began operating his own boat at the age of 16 and became one of the richest men in history.
Mayer Amschel Rothschild: was born in a ghetto; started business as a money lender and built the largest private fortune in history. He never saw the four walls of school.
Ty Warner: Billionaire real estate investor, hotel owner, sole owner, CEO, and Chairman of Ty, Inc. Ty Warner is a savvy, yet private business man. Ty, Inc; made $700 million in a single year with the Beanie Babies craze without spending money on advertising. He has since expanded to include Ty Girlz dolls, directly competing with Bratz dolls.
Howard Hughes: Dropped out of California Institute of Technology and Rice University; founded Hughes Aircrafts and Co and went on to become a billionaire
Giorgio Armani: Billionaire founder of the fashion brand; Giorgio Armani S.P.A. Dropped out of medical school at the University of Bologna because he couldn’t stand the sight of blood
Asa Candler: Founder of the Billionaire company and world’s most popular brand; Coca Cola. He dropped out of school at the age of 10.
Jenny Craig: With no college degree, this woman started Jenny Craig Inc from scratch and grew it to become one of the largest and most recognized companies in the weight management industry.
Rachael Ray: Despite having no formal training in culinary arts, Rachel Ray made a name for herself in the food industry. With numerous shows on the Food Network, a talk show and cookbooks, high-energy Rachael never slowed down. She has also appeared in magazines as well has having her own magazine debut in 2006.
Milton Hershey: With only a fourth grade education, Milton Hershey started his own chocolate company. Hershey’s Milk Chocolate became the first nationally marketed chocolate.
Frank Lloyd Wright: surpassed all odds to become the most influential architect of the twentieth century. Frank Lloyd Wright designed more than 1,100 projects with about half actually being built. He never saw the four walls of high school.
Dhirubhai Ambani: Famous founder of Reliance Group and father to two billionaires; Anil and Mukesh Ambani. Started Reliance Industries from scratch and never saw the four walls of school
Dean Kamen: Billionaire Kamen holds more than 80 US patents; famous for the Segwey PT, Auto syringe and IBOT robotic wheelchair; dropped out of Worcester Polytechnic.
Ralph Lauren: Billionaire fashion mogul. Studied business at Baruch College for two years and dropped out.
Paul Allen: billionaire co-founder of Microsoft Corporation; dropped out of Washington State University.

 

college dropouts aren't high school dropouts.
You can't get accepted in to college without at least a GED

 

Okay, Myark. Next time you need heart surgery we'll send you to the local butcher. And the next time you need a bridge built we'll send you a third-grader who has just gotten his first Lego Set for Christmas.

But what really happened with the folks you mentioned above, is not that they dropped out of the educational process, but that they instead "transferred" to a "school" more capable of dealing with their genius. Their exception only confirms the rule for those of us less talented.

 

Trying To Fight Climate Change Without Admitting We Are To Blame | ThinkProgress

 

http://www.theweathernetwork.com/ne...ributing-to-glacier-melt-in-antarctica/29260/

Underground volcanoes causing Antarctic ice sheet to melt, not global warming.
In my opinion these earthy hot spots come and go in strength over millenia.

So these volcanoes are not contributing for the melting , it is the cause of the melting.

And apparently also under the arctic ice is volcanism
http://sweetness-light.com/archive/could-volcanoes-be-melting-the-arctic-ice#.VC6SXXWx3UY

Perhaps they will say the earth is rifting apart due to AGW!

 

Really Neat Ocean-Floor Maps

New Map of Ocean Seafloor Reveals Stunning Details of How Continents Formed | SCIENCE WORLD REPORT

Maps can be seen here.


Global Map of Marine Gravity


North Atlantic (gravity anomaly)


Central Indian Ocean (gravity anomaly)

 

Ah! some real science for a change. How refreshing.
Thankyou Sdowney717 and imaginarynumber

We are over due for a pole shift. If it happens, when it happens, I hope it's the gentle kind.
The north pole is migrating faster and faster toward Russia.
Wonder where it will stop?
Where will the new south pole be?

 

U.S. Government Atmospheric Scientist Stanley B. Goldenberg said, “It is a blatant lie put forth in the media that makes it seem there is only a fringe of scientists who don’t buy into anthropogenic global warming.”


In the fall of 2012 the UK Meterological office released a report that stated:



“The world stopped getting warmer almost 16 years ago, according to new data released last week.


Rajendra Pachauri, head of the United Nations IPCC has Acknowledged the pause in warming.

 

That post is blatantly dishonest, since the "pause" has been explained both in this thread and on just about any scientific site on the web, more than once, and you know it.

(Yes moderators, I realise this is pushing the bonds of civility, but sometimes you have to call a spade a spade)

 

The winter will definitely be cold this year.

 

Incorrect Noeyedeer. Stating my honest assessment of facts is NEVER dishonest. I don't think you are dishonest, just misguided.

What has been attempted in reference to the PAUSE, in this thread and numerous articles and apologies, is to EXCUSE the pause from consideration.
Nope, it is of considerable importance! Meaning important to be considered.
It is NOT explained away, no matter how desperately you wish it were.
The PAUSE of 16 years and longer completely DESTROYS the concept that CO2 drives climate.
We ALL recognize that consequence, including AGWers, hence their desperation to ignore, deny, excuse, spin, explain away, the temperature rise pause.

It's NOT explained away, and not going away. Just as, unfortunately AGW propaganda isn't going away.
Propaganda works.
Influences people vulnerable to propaganda, ie those looking for a cause, and those prone to panic.
People already having firm belief systems are less vulnerable and more stoic. "Those who believe in nothing will fall for anything"

The entire CO2 global warming movement was a fraudulent scam cooked up by socialist racketeer Maurice Strong and associates, in the UN.
Under UN auspices, attempts to give it a sense of legitimacy doesn't succeed since the UN is pure corrupt politics. Well known.

The relatively new science of climatology (study of climate) was RE-DEFINED and perverted by IPCC, while Strong was it's first director.
For nefarious political and racketeering reasons. (call a spade a spade as you recommend, Noeyedeer)
Climatology predominantly became the study of HUMAN caused climate change, by the "consensus" UN funded/recruited climatologists, while those actually objectively studying climate are abused and shunned when NOT supporting AGW POV.

This priory principle, human induced climate change, is discredited.
It was a ridiculous concept, as science, from the beginning, considering the eons of constant climate change predating man.
Worked profitably as a clever scam though.

No significant warming for nearly two decades makes human induced climate change a lie and fraud valued at billions or trillions of tax payer dollars.
Imagine the GOOD things could have been done with this money stolen by crooked politicians.
Climate change is ALWAYS happening, but disconnected from human activity.


Now. Another matter.
Imminent pole shift or reversal.
Earths magnetic field has been weakening at an accelerating rate for past 300 years.
Its been more than 700,000 years since last reversal. Prior to that, reversals happened multiple times approximately every 200,000 years.
Long overdue.
Scientists have learned a rapidly weakening magnetic field and proliferation of magnetic anomalies heralds a pole shift or reversal.
Just such as we are experiencing NOW!

This is REAL science, not socialist spin..... Though it wouldn't surprise me if they claimed humans were somehow the cause, if they can make political hay and money from panic over it.

There may be some connection with the weakening magnetic field and some of the warming we have experienced in previous decades, recent centuries.
Our weakening protective force field is letting in more radiation, particularly at the poles.
May explain some of increased incidence of cancers also.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikxDnMI7kDM

This NOVA episode starts off weak, apparently aimed at young school kids, but then about 30% into the program begins upgrades for more mature audiences as it ultimately gets into some complicated science in the last 30%, all presented in terms for lay persons.
Excellent graphics and animations. Enjoy.
This is Not scare mongering. The shift IS inevitable and unpreventable, so panic is useless. Question is how SOON!