Our Oceans are Under Attack

Yobs quote
"Your dentist vegetarian is as narrow in his opinions as are you, because we are omnivorous"

 

The problem with your vegetarian view, I tried to explain, is not a philosophical or religious error. You are welcome to those views and I won't try to discredit them.

The error is, no matter what "evidence" you present that we are NOT omnivorous, it is dashed by the FACT that we DO eat meat. In some instances exclusively. If we were actually herbivorous, we could NOT eat meat.
In the arctic, for most of the year, there is no plant life to eat. Unless you import vegetables from warmer climes, you must eat animals or you starve.
" In a paper published Thursday in the journal Science, researchers analyzed 169 ancient DNA samples to study the origins and migration patterns of early Arctic cultures. The results point to a single, genetically distinct Paleo-Eskimo population that thrived in isolation for more than 4,000 years, only to vanish in a matter of decades."
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/29/s...ery-paleo-eskimos-abrupt-extinction.html?_r=0

The fallacy of vegetarianism as a solution for reducing CO2, is you won't gain many converts. It's at best a mute/moot point if not an erroneous claim.

Relax. Live and let live. The world won't end just because people won't adopt your diet philosophy.

 

"parents learned that their children had a 60% increased risk of developing leukemia if they consumed meat products, such as ham, sausages and hamburgers."



There is no more denying it. Meat contains highly toxic substances that are responsible for many deaths and diseases. Heavy meat consumption increases your risk of dying from all causes, including heart disease and cancer, according to a federal study

The study looked at the records of more than half a million men and women aged 50 to 71, following their diet and other health habits for 10 years. Between 1995 and 2005, 47,976 men and 23,276 women died.

Women who ate large amounts of red meat had a 20 percent higher risk of dying of cancer and a 50 percent higher risk of dying of heart disease than women who ate less. Men had a 22 percent higher risk of dying of cancer and a 27 percent higher risk of dying of heart disease. That`s compared to those who ate the least red meat, just 5 ounces per week, or 25g per day -- approximately a small rasher of bacon.

The study also included data on white meat and found that a higher intake was associated with a slightly reduced risk of death over the same period. However, high white meat consumption still posed a major risk of dying.


"For overall mortality, 11 percent of deaths in men and 16 percent of deaths in women could be prevented if people decreased their red meat consumption to the level of intake in the first quintile," Sinha`s team wrote.

Sinha`s team noted that meat contains several cancer-causing chemicals, as well as the unhealthiest forms of fat.

The good news is that the U.S. government now recommends a "plant-based diet" with the emphasis on fruits, vegetables and whole grains. The bad news is that it also hands out massive farm subsidies that keep meat prices very low and encourage meat-based diets. The government`s food-price policies contribute to such risk-filled eating habits as meat consumption

The new findings support a previous study published earlier this year in the Annals of Internal Medicine, which showed that eating meat boosts risk of prostate cancer 40 Percent. And just last month, parents learned that their children had a 60% increased risk of developing leukemia if they consumed meat products, such as ham, sausages and hamburgers.

Vegetarians Live Longer and Healthier Lives

More recently, medical research has found that a properly balanced vegetarian diet may, in fact, be the healthiest diet. This was demonstrated by the over 11,000 volunteers who participated in the Oxford Vegetarian Study. For a period of 15 years, researchers analyzed the effects a vegetarian diet had on longevity, heart disease, cancer and various other diseases.

The results of the study stunned the vegetarian community as much as it did the meat-producing industry: "Meat eaters are twice as likely to die from heart disease, have a 60 percent greater risk of dying from cancer and a 30 percent higher risk of death from other causes."

In addition, the incidence of obesity, which is a major risk factor for many diseases, including gallbladder disease, hypertension and adult onset diabetes, is much lower in those following a vegetarian diet. According to a Johns Hopkins University research report on 20 different published studies and national surveys about weight and eating behavior, Americans across all age groups, genders and races are getting fatter. If the trend continues, 75 percent of U.S. adults will be overweight by the year 2015.


And in 1961, the Journal of the American Medical Association reported that a vegetarian diet could prevent 90-97% of heart diseases.

Note: Although the uric acid content of fish, turkey and chicken is less than in red meat and, therefore, not quite as taxing to the kidneys and tissues of the body, the degree of injury that is sustained to the blood vessels and intestinal tract from eating these coagulated proteins is no less than it is with the consumption of meat.


Death in the Meat

Research has shown that all meat eaters have worms and a high incidence of parasites in their intestines. This is hardly surprising given the fact that dead flesh (cadaver) is a favorite target for microorganisms of all sorts. A 1996 study by the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) showed that nearly 80 percent of ground beef is contaminated with disease-causing microbes. The primary source of these bugs is feces. A study conducted by the University of Arizona found there are more fecal bacteria in the average kitchen sink than in the average toilet bowl. This would make eating your food on the toilet seat safer than eating it in the kitchen. The source of this biohazard at home is the meat you buy at the typical grocery store.

The germs and parasites found in meat weaken the immune system and are the source of many diseases. In fact, most food poisonings today are related to meat-eating.

Combined with hefty doses of growth hormones, a diet of corn and special feeds shortens the duration of fattening up a steer for market from a normal time period of 4-5 years to a mere 16 months. Of course, the unnatural diet makes the cows sick. Like their human consumers, they suffer from heartburn, liver disease, ulcers, diarrhea, pneumonia and other infections. To keep the cattle alive until the deadline for slaughter at the "ripe old age" of 16 months, the cows need to be fed enormous doses of antibiotics. In the meantime, the microbes that respond to the massive biochemical assault of antibiotics, find ways to become immune to these drugs by mutating into resistant new strains.

Those unfortunate cows that don`t drop dead prematurely due to all the poisons fed to them during their short earthly existence, experience an undignified and gruesome end of life in the slaughterhouse or meat-packing plant. From there, the diseased, germ-infested meat ends up in your local grocery store, and a little later, on your dinner plate, if you so dare.


Carl Lewis (Olympic gold medal winner) best athletic performances came after he eliminated all animal products from his diet.

 

Whatever.....

But thankyou for dramatically helping me make a point I've made in many other AGW threads.
For most people who like to argue that man causes global warming, it is because they think it's an opportunity to push their agenda.

"Everybody MUST adopt and live in accord with MY philosophy because the future of earth and the climate demands it!"

Your particular agenda is less dangerous and less repugnant than most.
Thanks for providing a clear example of the phenomenon.

 

World’s second largest super-trawler enters Irish waters

They claimed the giant vessel shouldn’t have sufficient quota to justify operations in Irish waters.
Its crew of 50 normally conducts round-the-clock fishing operations in a region for six to eight weeks before landing its processed catch.
“About 40 Irish fishing vessels have a preliminary quota of 18,000 tonnes of blue whiting for the entire season.
How on earth can one vessel from Lithuania obtain a quota for 5,000 tonnes which is almost one-third the entire Irish national quota,” he asked?

 

http://britishseafishing.co.uk/the-collapse-of-the-grand-banks-cod-fishery/

 

If the scientific community would give an optimistic view of fishery stocks from being pressured by the commercial fishing industry, why could they not present certain pessimistic views on climate change(previously known as global warming) due to the promise of governmental largesse or threats to their careers?

 

Good Morning Hoyt
The (sans comments) article I referenced about Canada's greedy mismanagement of the Grand Banks fishing until it required a complete shut down, was responding to the question in Myark's posted article.
"How did ONE Lithuanian trawler get a permit quota equal to one third of Irelands total national quota?"
I suspect some government official sold it to them.
Trying to foretell the future, it's the nature of human beings to be short sighted.
It's the best we can do, in spite of a strong desire to accurately predict.
Long range forecasts have invariably failed except for biblical prophets where it's considered supernaturally inspired.
I think computer models of theories is an unconscious or semi-aware attempt by scientists to invent a "God in a box."
Don't they refer to skeptics as heretics?
They demand status as true prophets of doom inspired by infallible models. ( Not the theory or evidence. Faith in the continuously manipulated model)
No long range success yet. We remain myopic.

 

Good morning, Yobarnacle.

 

Yobarnacle, I regret to say that your opinions on science are laughably inaccurate. However, I'm sure they make you feel superior, and are therefore fulfilling their primary function.

You should probably also refrain from boasting of the accuracy of biblical prophets, unless you want this thread shut down due to the mods' aversion to preaching.

 

I was making a point prophets had a reputation scientists envied, Sorry wasn't more clear.
and I'm not against science. Just the agenda laden "sciences".

 

http://www.nucleardarkness.org/warconsequences/hundredfiftytonessmoke/

A nuclear attack on our oceans we all try not to think about, probable because it can happen any time and the consequences are unimaginable, whether its deliberate or a faulty system that accidently heads a war head to country that has an automatic all out response .
A war fought with 1% of the deployed and operational nuclear weapons could cause up to a billion people to die from nuclear famine. A large nuclear war, fought with the nuclear arsenals of the U.S. and Russia, would surely kill most humans and many other complex forms of life on Earth.
http://www.skynews.com.au/news/top-stories/2014/08/31/russian-tanks--destroy--ukrainian-town.html
'Practically Russia is in a state of war against Europe this moment.'

 

Are you an adrenaline junky?

ok. Here's a scare for you.
Have you wondered why the USA gov gives only token lip service to global warming?
Why the fed spends money like there is no tomorrow?
Maybe they know a secret?

http://www.techtimes.com/articles/1...of-physics-will-1950-da-spell-earths-doom.htm

 

NOAA Lists 20 New Corals as Threatened Under the Endangered Species Act

 

http://www.nhm.ac.uk/nature-online/life/dinosaurs-other-extinct-creatures/mass-extinctions/

"More than 99% of all species that have ever lived on Earth are now extinct. The vast majority (over 95%) died out because they couldn’t compete successfully for food or other resources. Or they failed to adapt to changes in their local environment over tens or even hundreds of millions of years.

For the rest, something more dramatic happened. They perished during relatively short-term mass extinction events that killed off large numbers of species worldwide."

That's what happens when BIG GOVERNMENT doesn't manage everything.
Thank goodness for BIG GOVERNENT intent on preventing any more extinctions ever. NEVER AGAIN! (somebodies motto)

Why does sarcasm taste like a corroded penny?