Ok I don't own it

ah slipped my mind
those things are a great idea
I'll put those links in my boat stuff file
I was also thinking if there's room that I could put a compact washer dryer in the area aft of the trunk house cause it looks like a bunch of unused space back there

if its some kind of issue I'll remove the antigue head but save all the stuff and install the composting one
ideally though I'd just install the composting one leaving the original where it is and functional
you dont really want to be pissing in a composting head

thanks for the tip Stan and glad your back on board

 

oh
I'm also getting the idea that rather than just pul it out of the water right away I should maybe leave it were it is and drive it around for a few months this winter
covered slips are about 400 there and the same slip in Seattle is a tad more
I dont even want to think about what a covered slip in ketchikan costs

the river is huge and I could probably spend quite a bit of time exploring
days on the water is what I need and fast cause I dont see a way around this 365 day rule for my captains license

 

UPV rules

View attachment 6_pack_Charter_boat_regulations.pdf

This should answer a few of your questions. I think it is page 22 that explains things about marine sanitation devices pretty explicitly.

 

thanks

 

I think that is a great idea. It is configured the way it is for reasons that may not be obvious at first blush. Also gives you more time to see just how much hull work you need to do. It is better to know how much so you can plan to knock it out start to finish and get back to the water quickly. Old wood tends to shrink and can cause other leaks and problems as a result when left too long out of water.

As far as haul-out intervals it depends on what kind of bugs you have there. The worms are pretty thick here in NE Florida so if you leave your wood boat too long between haul-outs areas where the paint has worn through or flaked off will provide entry points for the buggers. They will get in and chew around until you find them and burn or cut them out. In this area it is just about imperative you come out at least once annually. Local knowledge where you will be using your new prize is probably your best bet.

On another note you should go ahead and have some cards made up with a picture and short history of the vessel for all the times you would like to tell it once more to nice folks on the dock but don't have the time

 

gold mine of information B I cant thank you enough for that link

ha
doesn't look like I need a captains license but something refereed to as a "pilot" license

phew I thought I'd have to wait a year

now to read back through the terms and make sure I got that straight

thanks again
B

ok I hate government style information
you really gotta read through everything cause its not cross referenced at all

I can get this one pretty quick and it will give me time on the water for the pilot license

I could have it by the middle of the season if I worked it right
maybe one of the local hotels would use me to ferry folks around the straight

 

and while you're cruising the river you can lash the helm and inspect the boat

 

ya they count time on the river so if I did tool around the Columbia this winter I just might be good to make a few bucks as long as I dont stray out of some undefined restricted area from Ketchikan

I need to get cracking this week on the chart classes
they have a bunch of classes offered not to far from here

 

by the way
I gotta say buying a boat is all very nerve wracking
just sent of a signed letter today along with a payment and dam
what a commitment

I'm changing a lot of things with this little purchase
lets hope all goes well

B

 

Join the boat owners club, Many things change... One only hopes, for the better in the long run...

 

Jeez, Bos - how many turds you planning on making? Don't make such a deal out of it - You have a valve on your thru-hull anyway (full flow or next larger size). Close it when you see the orange boat (CG skiff), put a sign on the head door, "No use within three miles of shore" and mark a bucket with one of those seats that fits a bucket "Potty", or such. A damn whale drops what, four ton deuces? I say the stuff is better left at sea than overflowing a waste treatment plant - and it works for every other creature in nature.
Incinerate or compost, if you will, and that's pretty straight-forward, as well (albeit more expensive, stinky, and cumbersome), by no means use any chemicals to kill bacteria - they are deadly to the local environment and nearly killed Puget Sound at one point.

 

I have never heard of a "launch tender's" license and I am on CG issue number eight (five year renewal). A pilot is something else, as well.
You need 360 days. You can sign the time yourself if you own a boat. Some of it can be inland (I don't know how much). Funny aside - I have a friend that got 720 days of inland "sea-time" on a sod farm - I guess they float lawnmowers on the bigger ones by temporarily flooding every week!
Bos, let me attempt to dissuade you from the classes for the time being. Yes, they teach how to pass the tests very well, and they have incentive to pass you (they don't want to look at you in the next class). But, please learn the old fashioned way and you will learn more, better, and appreciate what you learn. When it comes time to take the test, then take a class that also gives the test. You'll pass but, more importantly, you'll know the material. There are other books, Bowditch, et.al., but try this - buy Chapman's (Seamanship, Piloting or something similar) on Amazon, learn everything in it. That's what I did when I was seventeen, and I believe it has saved my life a couple of times. In the class, you will retain the information just long enuf to pass the test - just like most everyone else. You will need first aid and CPR ( use online Emergency University for testing if you are already proficient, $80 dollars/ 25minutes - same testing theory applies), If you are really going thru with this, get your TWIC card NOW ( it will take that long to receive)

 

always helpfull stuff Mark

Well I own the boat so it would be kinda lame to quit now. Um whats a TWIC card. The CPR thing is no big deal as I used to have one and cpr is pretty basic.

that bit about signing off on my own time is something I've been wondering about

Chapman's eh
will get it and start in immediately

its been forever and I never really did know the rules other than to stay out from infront of anything bigger than myself

I just made arraignments to spend winters hear and summers up by Ketch for the next few years so I'm pretty much committed at this point. Or should be har har har. Work called about a hundred times last week and hired me back Friday so I have made arraignments to have employment in the "off season" and "off season" is at my discretion. I told then it was likely 6 months on and 6 off.

ya there is some weird provision that after 90 days I can get a restricted license

I'll be in a covered slip in portland till spring tooling the Columbia and learning how to drive ( assuming another survey finds the boat in sea worthy condition otherwise I will have to pull her out now ) this winter, Ok it will be rainy but thats life and if these decks leak I will want to know.

I have to admit I'm a bit flustered by the speed at which things are progressing, some of you might have noticed that I prefer to take my time and think things through. I'm looking for a slip for next summer up in Ketch, preferably covered.

the head thing is just a small issue I need to figure out, I wasn't aware of that three mile rule. I wonder what it is on a river ? and yes the rules clearly indicate that some significant portion of that 360 days can be on the intercoastal

thanks for all the great info

B

 

You cannot dump in any RIVER and the CG hates thru hulls to drain waste on small boats. your better off to plug those and use a deck mount drain to empty in port and have a small 12V pump to empty when 3 miles off shore. It save you grief when inspected and really presents no problems. Might just need a larger holding tank and if using composites does not add to weight. The only thru hull you need is for the water pump. Then the CG will love you.

 

what are the chances the head system is grandfathered in
thing was built in 1925 for Pete's sakes and its kinda a museum piece after all
Rather wealthy friend of mine suggested I should donate it when I'm done to a museum or something.
I realize it doesn't make dumping legal but this thing is all original which is kinda rare.

B