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yeah? well there are polls and polls.
Do I need to repost one from jan 2016, I posted several times?
Only 27% believe man is the major cause of global warming

 

Claude Frédéric Bastiat said, “It must be admitted that the tendency of the human race toward liberty is largely thwarted, especially in France. This is greatly due to a fatal desire, learned from the teachings of antiquity, that our writers on public affairs have in common. They desire to set themselves above mankind in order to arrange, organize, and regulate it according to their fancy.”

“Each of us has a natural right from God to defend his person, his liberty, and his property.”

“Since the law organizes justice, the socialists ask why the law should not also organize labor, education, and religion. Why should not law be used for these purposes? Because it could not organize labor, education, and religion without destroying justice. We must remember that law is force, and that, consequently, the proper functions of the law cannot lawfully extend beyond the proper functions of force. When law and force keep a person within the bounds of justice, they impose nothing but a mere negation. They oblige him only to abstain from harming others. They violate neither his personality, his liberty, nor his property. They safeguard all of these. They are defensive. They defend equally the rights of all.”

http://www.famousquotes.com/author/frederic-bastiat/

 

This is your chart which points out that you have limited comprehension, can't add, are fos or D, all of the above.




61% believe " man causes climate change". That is a majority.



http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/7010522.stm

59% of USAnians think we need to take major steps to reduce climate change.

The USA WON'T WAIT and SEE, but if that upsets you, feel free to move to an area more compatible with your way of thinking, such as India, Russia or Nigeria.

 

I recently showed a poll of problems important to Americans, and climate change (man made or not) wasn't even on the list.
People don't think about it unless asked about it, because they have more important issues.

And those in the pie chart who think man has something to do with warming but not the major cause, aren't going to vote for your socialist social engineering schemes.

Since you HAVE to win a lot people to your side to win, I understand your "need" to "view" any indicator of progress as significant.
All about POV.

I only need to convince enough sane people to prevent foolishness.
Since the socialists are highly unlikely to gain control of either house of congress, we are preventing foolishness till at least 2018.
Depending on gains or losses this year, socialists may have a better or more impossible chance for control in 2018.
Article 5 convention coming, and the federal government, already out of control, may be powerless to do foolish things by 2018. I hope.
Government is people. People can be punished for doing illegal things, unconstitutional things, unless they do them in congress.
We are going to fix that little glitch.
Federal officials ignoring the 10th amendment, or any part of the Constitution, will be punished.
Severely enough to serve as a deterrent example to other wannabe tyrants.

Wait and See!

 

Well, this is more into pontificating and speculating about US politics, rather than actual climate science or ocean news, so perhaps we should get back on topic.

 

Does climate change make it immoral to have kids? | The Guardian

 

They are erecting the arches of Baal in London and Manhattan on April 19, one of Satan's high holy days. http://www.britannica.com/topic/Baal-ancient-deity

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DT0wuHu2K88

http://www.federaljack.com/satanist-and-followers-of-lucifer-prepare-for-april-19th/

 

They are? Ok, please explain. This is sure to be good.

Also, while you're at it, can you explain what sacrificing children to ancient deities has to do with modern parents worrying about the future welfare of their own children?

Edit: And come to think of it, shouldn't one of Satan's festivals be an unholy day?

 

If someone was going to sacrifice your child on the altar of Baal or Moloch would you not be in the least concerned?

http://www.britannica.com/topic/Moloch-ancient-god

 

Obviously I would be concerned, but your posts still appear to be completely unrelated to ImaginaryNumber's post. Can you explain how your posts follow from what he posted?

Edit: Come to think of it, what do your posts have to do with ocean news and/or climate science? Why the sudden excursion into the wildest fringes of fundamentalist religion and conspiracy theories?

 

Oh? Ocean news is supposed to be a pulpit for anthropogenic global warming preaching?
Well, if it is, you can't separate it from politics. AGW IS politics, nothing BUT politics.
Since the two sides are divided eactly along political lines, it's absurd to claim it's NOT politics.

But, you actually meant, give YOUR side a free field without any rebuttal or refutation, didn't you!

 

Well, I would have thought ocean news would be news about the ocean.

 

If they'll quit preaching AGW, I'll stop refuting them.

 

Oh dear. What you seem to have missed is that you haven't even begun to refute AGW. All you have managed to do is rant about your pet conspiracy theories, and regurgitate denier memes that have long since been discredited. This is why deniers are getting less and less traction all the time. Your objections imply don't stand up to scrutiny. Often they don't stand up to even a casual glance. Despite this, you keep repeating them because they are all you have.

If AGW is affecting the ocean, and it is, then it's almost impossible to talk about the ocean without AGW coming into it some of the time. It's far from the only factor affecting the ocean (overfishing and plastic pollution are two other big problems) but AGW is definitely relevant to the overall topic.

Just recently the northern half of the Great Barrier Reef bleached. The Great Barrier Reef is in the ocean. AGW is the main factor causing the bleaching. That makes AGW relevant.

 

ALL climatologists claim the amount of warming to increased CO2 is logarithmic.
All logarithmic equations flatline.
No significant warming to doubling of CO2 (flatlined) means CO2 can NOT be a driver of climate.
Ergo, man-made CO2 is not driving climate.