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    Satan even quotes the Bible.
     
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    Michael Novak December 2000 wrote: http://www.firstthings.com/article/2000/12/defining-social-justice

    "Last year marked the one hundredth anniversary of the birth of Friedrich Hayek, among whose many contributions to the twentieth century was a sustained and animated put—down of most of the usages of the term “social justice.” I have never encountered a writer, religious or philosophical, who directly answers Hayek’s criticisms. In trying to understand social justice in our own time, there is no better place to start than with the man who, in his own intellectual life, exemplified the virtue whose common misuse he so deplored.

    "The trouble with “social justice” begins with the very meaning of the term. Hayek points out that whole books and treatises have been written about social justice without ever offering a definition of it. It is allowed to float in the air as if everyone will recognize an instance of it when it appears. This vagueness seems indispensable. The minute one begins to define social justice, one runs into embarrassing intellectual difficulties. It becomes, most often, a term of art whose operational meaning is, “We need a law against that.” In other words, it becomes an instrument of ideological intimidation, for the purpose of gaining the power of legal coercion."
     
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    So, if you really want to take my little boat and my little piece of ocean front property, be as prepared to bleed for it as I am.
     
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    I posted Fromm's understanding of what Marx was all about so you and yobarnacle might see your way out of the uninformed morass y'all live in. My good intentions obviously didn't work for ****. Oh well.

    Your fundamentalist mentality has betrayed you, the word 'creation' is not a strictly religious term, there are plenty of other uses for it, such as like Fromm did in talking about art and science.

    As such, it doesn't make him a 'Creationist' as you thoughtlessly assert.

    http://www.erichfromm.net/

    Try reading Fromm's thoughts on Marx, maybe you'll see that everything isn't so black and white, that a simple term such as socialism can have varying degrees and can mean a lot of things, maybe you'll shed some of your heebie jeebies.
     
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    I see you're sourcing lunatics and spouting paranoid delusional thoughts.

    Good luck.
     
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    Thanks, SamSam. It is mutual. ;)

    I don't believe either of us to be uninformed. I do believe some of us are misinformed and they are mostly in the AGW/anthropogenic climate change group. :)
     
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    The reason he didn't capitalise it is because he was not a creationist, and was not using the term that way you want to read it. You can only claim he was a creationist by deliberately taking his words out of context. Fromm regarded religious texts as being largely allegorical, not literal.

    What he was talking about was the act, by humans, not by a deity, of creating something new. In other words, human creativity.
     
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    Global warming risks trillions: Study | CNBC.com
     
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    Federal report: climate change will hurt public health across the U.S. | masslive.com
     
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    Some Whales Like Global Warming Just Fine | National Geographic
     
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    NASA’s new sea level site puts climate change papers, data, and tools online | Tech Crunch
     
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    Interesting.
    We'll wait an see .
     

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