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  1. myark
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    The Warmer, Wetter Arctic Is Becoming a New Source of Carbon

    Could the impacts of climate change include environmental feedbacks that intensify its effects?

    http://news.yahoo.com/warmer-wetter-arctic-becoming-source-carbon-130532031.html

    New research from Dartmouth College in New Hampshire adds to a growing body of evidence that in the Arctic, at least, such feedback loops are a real consequence of the world’s continued reliance on fossil fuels.
    They found that both types of soils released significantly more CO2 as they got warmer and wetter. Grass soils released up to twice as much carbon than the shrub soils as heat and moisture increased.

    “I think about it as if you’re pouring Red Bull on the soils,” said Bradley-Cook, who led the study as part of completing her Ph.D. at Dartmouth. “As you ramp up temperatures, you’re giving the microorganisms in the soils all this energy, in an accelerated way. The grass soils are more sensitive to that Red Bull than the shrub soils.”
    “The big picture is that there is twice as much carbon stored in Arctic soils as there is in the atmosphere,” Bradley-Cook said. “What’s going to happen to that carbon that built up in soils over millennia under the conditions of rapid climate change?”

    GRID-Arendal, a Norwegian research center affiliated with the United Nations Environment Programme, estimates that Arctic soils hold about 1.8 trillion tons of carbon.

    Scientists have been warning the public in recent months that climate change is accelerating.

    In February, temperatures across the Arctic soared as much as 7.2 degrees Fahrenheit above the 1951 to 1980 average, according to the Colorado-based National Snow and Ice Data Center—blowing away the maximum warming target of 3.6 degrees (2 degrees Celsius) that nations agreed to in last year’s Paris climate accord.
     
  2. Yobarnacle
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    Well CO2 is flatlined, can't cause more warming even if it reaches 1000 ppm.

    And temperatures in one localized region don't "blow away" global average temperatures.

    What do you do with folks who CONSISTENTLY exaggerate to incite panic?

    I can think of a number of penalties I'd like exacted.
    I propose Venus as an appropriate penal colony for AGWers. See how they like 99% CO2 atmosphere! A million ppm.
    Future probability after actual decades and events prove their 'chicken little' predictions false.
    I bet they'd insist on taking their kids with them.

    For today?
    Certainly BELIEVING them isn't justified!
     
  3. myark
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    Climate Science Is Based On Evidence, But Science Denial Is Based On Faith

    http://www.realskeptic.com/2014/05/...ed-on-evidence-science-denial-based-on-faith/

    Anyone who wants to debate a science denier often needs a thick skin, especially concerning topics like global warming. They often hurl words like leftist, socialist, communist, fascist, sheeple, useful idiot, and worse at you. Though why a political ideology is used as an insult still is something that I don’t understand. At most you’ll get a slightly annoyed roll of the eyes from me when you label me as something that I’m not.

    But the one that truly puzzles me is when I’m accused of having a religious like faith in science. Science isn’t a religion, certainly not when you accept the scientific consensus on anthropogenic global warming (AGW). To me it’s climate science denial that looks more like a faith position.

    To understand why I say this you need to take into account that what climate science deniers say is at a fundamental level at odds with the scientific consensus on global warming. A consensus that arises from evidence found through meticulous study and hard work by scientists.

    Due to the sheer amount of supporting evidence not a single national academy of science the world over has denied anthropogenic global warming, the vast majority have formally declared that human-induced climate change is real and have urged nations to reduce greenhouse gasses. Independent unions, professional associations, societies, institutes, federations, and other organizations of international standing of scientists and engineers, all have released statements accepting anthropogenic climate change. Considering that most of these organizations are entirely independent this is quite remarkable. These organisations don’t take such positions, or make such statements, lightly.
     
  4. Yobarnacle
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    don't kill the golden goose the research grants come from.

    "when I’m accused of having a religious like faith in science" ?

    Never claimed you did.
    Claimed AGW was your religion because you reject science to believe in it.

    Logarithmic equations graph to a flat line, a maximum limit.
    ALL logarithmic equations, without exception.

    What formulas are climatologists using for CO2 relationship to warming?
    Logarithmic.

    But YOU insist CO2 and warming is a linear relationship with unlimited capacity for additional CO2 to cause more warming.
    The mathematics refutes you.

    That you don't understand higher mathematics, is your fault.
    It's no crime to be ignorant, but to REMAIN ignorant, IS your fault.
    Learn the math, so you don't make ridiculous assumptions about math.
    That leads you to error in judgment.
    Can't do science without math.
    Math is the most pristine and incorruptible of the sciences.
    Not subject to interpretation of results.
    People do make errors in math, especially in statistics, and also plug in erroneous data in formulas that give erroneous results.
    But the MATH isn't wrong, the operator is.
    Logic is a mathematical field also.
    Suggest you need to learn as well.
     
  5. viking north
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    Yo as they say we are the next generation to kiss Mother Natures green earth. Speaking of Math. a wee bit of history Logs only came on the scene in the 1400's, Quadratics were first solved in the 1500's. Imagine where it will go when we openly introduce our first computer human brain HDMI connection. :eek:
    Getting back on boat related subjects, and I repeat myself here only on the fear that my previous post might get lost in the fog, does anyone out there have any solid input on my post #1119, page 75 query. As related to boat travel this is HWY #95 on the water and an important subject to us all.
     
  6. Yobarnacle
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    I'm looking for the information.

    Even if currently the Corps of E is neglecting the northern ICW, that can change with priorities and/or administration.

    My suggestion is find a tug and follow him. It's deeper after the tug passes! :D
     
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    hoytedow Carbon Based Life Form

    Since the stone has nearly been squeezed dry, it will need for us to get our priorities back in order to recover economically to address these problems of infrastructure. Not only the waterways are in decay but bridges, highways and defense are being ruined. People spending other people's money don't tend to take care how they spend it.
     
  9. viking north
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    Hey Yo you picked up on that (Core)(Corps) :D . On reflection considering the torturing that Mother Nature has handed Florida, Louisiana , New York , New Jersey and "The Outer Banks" :rolleyes:these past years I'm not surprised something has to give. $4.6 billion seems like a lot of green backs but is soon depleted when taking on these mega buck projects.
     
  10. myark
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    A record number of Americans see global warming as a threat

    http://www.businessinsider.com/64-of-americans-fear-global-warming-2016-3

    A record number of Americans believe global warming will pose a threat to their way of life, new polling data shows, amid strengthening public acceptance that rising temperatures are being driven by human activity.

    “I think a shift in public opinion and consciousness has been underway for several years now,” Michael Mann, a prominent climate scientist at Pennsylvania State University, told the Guardian.

    Polling firm Gallup, which has been tracking public sentiment on the topic annually since 1997, found that 41% of US adults feel warming will pose a “serious threat” to them during their lifetimes. This is the highest level recorded by Gallup, a 4% increase on 2015.

    A total of 64% of those polled said they worried about global warming a “great deal” or a “fair amount”, the highest level of recorded concern since 2008. Just 36% of Americans said they did not fret about it, or only worried a little.

    The results show a solidifying belief that changes in the climate are under way, with 59% of people thinking so. A record 65% of Americans said global warming was down to greenhouse gases released by human activity – a 10% leap on last year.
     
  11. Yobarnacle
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    Tell a lie often enough, some people will believe it.
    That's why I fight against AGW lies.
    AGW is a socialist propaganda war.
    If not countered effectively, I fear will result in civil war in the USA.
    A shooting war.
    I'd like to see a poll, how many AGWers are willing to die for their cause?
    Because patriots ARE deadly serious about preserving the USA and freedom!

    However, opinion polls don't predict votes very well, and the voting is what counts.
    Opinion polls vary depending where polled and wording of questions, so lots of bias does work into the process causing error.
    Looking at Gallops polls, would lead you to conclude American opinions are fickle and volatile. I doubt people change their views so precipitously.
    More likely difference in polls is the amount of bias incorporated into the poll questions.
    http://www.gallup.com/poll/190010/concern-global-warming-eight-year-high.aspx

    http://www.chron.com/news/nation-wo...-s-12-biggest-problems-5318832.php#item-38488

    When Gallop asks Americans the most important 12 issues/problems worrying them, AGW isn't even on American's minds or on their list.

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    Its good to see 65% of Americans are understanding global warming is caused by greenhouse gases released by human activity and are following suit with the rest of the world and their scientist that are concerned about our children's and their children's future :) this has brought most nations together to unite as one to fight pollution instead of each other.
     
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    I very much intend my children, grand children and their descendants enjoy living in a free society where they can self determine their own futures and maximize their individual potentials.
    You need consensus which is why you get excited when you read polls you think are progress towards consensus.
    I'm telling you, you'll never get near a consensus or a majority in the USA.
    Americans aren't that stupid to fall for socialist propaganda.
    Those that are socialist, un-americans, need culling.
     
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    The worldwide lights-out event “Earth Hour,” scheduled for Saturday, has taken place every year since 2007.

    http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2016/0319/Earth-Hour-turns-10-Has-the-protest-already-done-its-job

    But do we still need it?

    A Gallup poll released this week found that an all-time high of 65 percent of Americans accept that humans are driving climate change, while 64 percent said they worry "a great deal" or "a fair amount" about climate change.
    Organized by the World Wide Fund for Nature (WWF), Earth Hour takes place every March on a day selected by the organization. Participants, which include cities, individuals, and famous landmarks such as the Eiffel Tower, turn off their lights between 8:30 and 9:30 p.m. local time to demonstrate the importance of saving energy and conserving resources.
    More than 350 world landmarks in 178 countries are scheduled to take place in Earth Hour this year. This year's theme is “Places We Love,” a reminder that unchecked climate change threatens to destroy beloved natural places such as beaches and mountains.
    Event organizers say that this year’s Earth Hour is particularly important because of the recent Paris agreement on climate change, which includes worldwide efforts to reduce carbon emissions and spread green technology.

    While government officials from most of the world's nations have agreed to take steps to curb climate change – and the majority of Americans now agree that climate change has a man-made component – the "LINGERING" influence of climate change deniers suggests that Earth Hour remains relevant.

    “The world is at a climate crossroads,” Earth Hour's Mr. Das. “While we are experiencing the impacts of climate change more than ever, we are also witnessing a new momentum in climate action transcending borders and generations. From living rooms to classrooms and conference rooms, people are demanding climate action. This tenth edition of Earth Hour is our time to ensure people are empowered to be a part of climate solutions.”
     
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    It would be nice to go completely off-grid for 1 week every season. I think it would be very therapeutic. No internet or cell phone either. Reconnect by disconnecting.
     

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