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These two articles explain a bit of how the data for Cyclone Mahina was acquired, and why it may not be totally reliable.

Cyclone Mahina | Wikipedia

World Storm Surge Records | Weather Underground

 

Closing the thread to those who disagree is the typical response which one would expect from a totalitarian mindset.

Sincerely,
"Laurel"

 

Well, do you recognize calling skeptics 'deniers' is an insult, intentionally offensive and deliberately calculated disrespectful and demeaning?
I'd appreciate not being referred to as a 'denier', or heretic.
But I admit that might put a dampener on posting a lot of AGWer opinion pieces, that generically seem to prefer using those darts.

I am a skeptic. I am a refuter of AGW.
I reject the entire notion of consensus, and dispute it's reality or legitimacy.
I refuse to permit unscientific assertions like "science is settled" to go unchallenged.
And I'll point at propaganda and call it propaganda.
When I observe unethical tactics, like fear/panic mongering, I'll label them shameful, unjust and unworthy of consideration or tolerance.
But I'm not a denier. I won't deny you the choice to think/believe what you wish.
I'll set the facts straight when I read error, so vulnerable readers aren't misled.
Claim anything you want! I won't deny you posting assertions, but they're subject to being falsified by the evidence, which is only appropriate.
I defend the USA founding principles against ALL challengers.
If you care what I would prefer to be called, Patriot or Constitutionist, either will do nicely, thankyou.

There is a major philosophical difference between skeptics and AGWers, and an operational difference and in agenda.

AGWers proselytize. They are determined that EVERYONE should think like them, believe their dogma, and not delay in adopting draconian policies of economic upheaval and social engineering.

Skeptics say believe what you want, but don't be precipitous! Think before you jump!

Don't leap over the cliff someone urges you to. The sacrifice they demand is not in your best interest. Undoing the hasty impulse and getting BACK might not be an option! Wiser course is be patient. wait and SEE.
Their hypothesis gets weaker all the time. Data is running contrary to their predictions.

 

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http://news.yahoo.com/were-going-twice-hard-contain-173200532.html

We're Going to Have to Work Twice as Hard to Contain Global Warming — But It's Worth It

New research claims that if we don't cut greenhouse gas emissions by almost half, our planet is doomed.
A new study published in Nature Climate Change concluded that in order to keep our global average temperature from rising 2 degrees Celsius — the limit climate scientists agree is the point of no return for mitigating the risks of climate change — then humankind would need to keep its future greenhouse gas emissions down to 1,590 to 240 billion tons of carbon dioxide. According to the study, the previous range of the safe zone went as high as 2,390 billion tons — almost twice that of the new estimate.
"In order to have a reasonable chance of keeping global warming below 2 degrees Celsius, we can only emit a certain amount of carbon dioxide, ever.
The most ambiguous aspect of previous studies was how badly human beings are messing up the planet. It's no surprise that the answer is, well, a lot.

 

fear mongering
https://youtu.be/2KPplYp7K7M
https://youtu.be/j2klh2cTa_Q

 

What do these numbers mean? The new range is "1,590 to 240" ? Isn't that a huge range? And how is 2,390 "almost twice that of the new estimate" ??

 

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According to Rogelj, the new study shows researchers have been overestimating the carbon budget by, in some cases, more than 200%. To figure out how there can be such a massive disparity in the estimates — a difference of as much as 1,000 billion tons of carbon dioxide — the team at IIASA looked into things like the release of methane into the atmosphere.

 

As far as I know you're the only one proposing closing the thread. I'm certainly not suggesting either closing the thread or banning those who disagree with me. As I attempted to say before, perhaps those who consistently flaunt the forum rules for behaving civilly should be asked to refrain from posting on this thread. Apparently the forum moderator felt that some of the posts were so egregious that he deleted them. I'm not sure whose posts were deleted. Hope they weren't mine...

 

And yet their own study has a 600+% range between its low and high estimate???

 

I can understand why don't don't like being called a 'denier', and why you prefer being called a skeptic. While I think that the term 'denier' more accurately describes your attitude than that of a 'skeptic', I've recently shied away from calling you either, because of risk of offending you.

I don't mind your calling me an 'alarmist'; sometimes I've even called myself one. Maybe I've got thicker skin then you do.

Thank you. I wish you could convince your friend Hoyt that it's okay for all of us to post disagreeing ideas, without the need to call for the thread to be closed.

Sometimes what our 'enemies' call us turns out to be more objective than what we call ourselves.

I would say there are major philosophical differences between deniers and AGWers, but not between skeptics and AGWers.

I'm very happy to have your posts on this thread so that undecided readers can compare your ideas against those of the AGW scientific community. Please keep posting!

 

New findings on plankton extinctions hold implications for species vulnerability to climate change | PHYS.ORG

 

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The show’s focus will be on solving environmental problems by making positive changes while creating productive and respectful dialogue with others. Children will become more aware and develop skills that empower them to make a difference. These, we believe, are the keys to Planet Blue’s educational values. Through compassion, we seek to aid our children in leading the way into tomorrow.

 

You are the one who suggested banning people of differing opinions from the thread.

Sincerely,
"Laurel"

 

Scientific research of plastic pollution and toxics in Ocean

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I am 25 year old Law student from Norway with a passion for the environment and the ocean.

What is my project?

There are 100 million tons of plastic in the ocean and it's estimated that another 8 million ton of plastic get dumped in the ocean every year. Which have caused five major gyres of plastic in the ocean.
eXXpedition is a series of all women voyages to make the unseen seen, from the toxics in our bodies to the toxics in our seas. On the 16th of November 2014 eXXpedition launched the first mission with a crew of 14 women setting sail across the Atlantic Ocean in search of answers relating to the health of our environment and to the health of our bodies.

During an eXXpedition voyage environmental samples are collected to assess plastic and pollutants, feeding in these samples to wider studies investigating the impacts of toxics and plastics pollutants and linking this sampling to narratives of ecosystem health, personal health and the products we consume.

The eXXpedition crew also participate in biomonitoring with the UN founded initiative ‘Safe Planet‘ to assess personal exposure to known toxic substances. Through personal exploration of our internal environment(MeSearch) the aim is to better understand the levels of toxic exposure in women.