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  1. Yobarnacle
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    http://instituteforenergyresearch.org/topics/encyclopedia/renewable-energy/

    "the United States was the world’s largest consumer of renewable energy from geothermal, solar, wood, wind, and waste for electric power generation producing 22% of the world’s total. In 2014, ""

    "In 2014, hydropower accounted for 2.47 quadrillion Btu of energy [vii], a figure the EIA expects to grow slightly through 2040[viii]. All other sources of renewable fuels accounted for 7.14 quadrillion Btu in 2014[ix] and are anticipated to increase to 9.71 quadrillion Btu by 2040[x]. "
     
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    WASHINGTON (AP) — The amount of man-made heat energy absorbed by the seas has doubled since 1997, a study released Monday showed.
    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/man-made-heat-put-in-oceans-has-doubled-since-1997/

     
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    2015 a 'tipping point' for climate change: experts
    http://news.yahoo.com/2015-tipping-point-climate-change-experts-113137450.html

    Nature, along with the usually fractious family of nations, conspired to make it a landmark year: almost certainly the hottest on record for the planet as a whole, and a rare moment of unity when 195 states pledged to curb the carbon pollution that drives global warming.

    Whether the December 12 Paris Agreement is the key to our salvation or too-little-too-late depends on what happens starting now, experts and activists told AFP.

    "The most compelling thing you can say about Paris is not that it saved the planet, but that it saved the chance of saving the planet," said Bill McKibben, founder of the grassroots organisation 350.org and an architect of the worldwide movement to divest from fossil fuel companies.

    Robert Stavins, director of the Harvard Environmental Economics Program at the Harvard Kennedy School, was also chary: "We will only be able to judge whether it is truly a success years, perhaps decades, from now."

    But whatever lies ahead, they all agree, the last year has been a "tipping point" on climate change.

    Experts have also come a step closer to concluding that our impact on Earth's bio-chemical systems has been so massive as to justify the christening of a new geological era.

    The "golden spike", or start date, for the Anthropocene -- the "Age of Man" -- will probably be the mid-20th century.

    There's a huge amount of resistance and inertia built into the system," said Huq. "Changing the global economy is not a trivial matter."

    Much of that resistance will come from the fossil fuel industry, faced with the fact that 80 percent of known reserves must stay in the ground to have even a shot at holding global warming to "well below two degrees Celsius" (3.6 degrees Fahrenheit) above mid-19th century levels, much less the 1.5 degree target climate-vulnerable countries fought so hard to include in the Paris Agreement as an aspirational goal.

    "The writing is on the wall for coal. But the oil and gas industry is much bigger and more powerful," said Meyer. "You don't want to delude yourself that they are going to go away quietly."
     

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    I've ignored this thread,but this is just too easy...


    From a solar study it has been shown that the solar energy hitting the earth is 440 exajoules per minute.

    So in a day (60minutes x 24 hours) that's about 634,000 exajoules.
    Oceans cover 71% so about 450,000 exajoules per day hit the oceans.

    Exajoule is quintillion,so 10 power 18.
    Zettajoule is sextillion, so 10 power 21 which= a difference of 3 zeros when converting from exa to zeta.

    So using Grade 3 arithmetic we see that knocking 3 zeros off of 450,000 exajoules gives 450 zettajoules a DAY from the sun hitting the oceans. and they're whining about 150 man-made zettajoules hitting it over 18 bloody years.

    The sun dumps the same zettajoules on the oceans on one day what it would take us 54 years to accomplish...

    FTW
     
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    It would be great if you keep ignoring this thread, thanks
     
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    Truth upsets you? Good.

    Fortunately I have better things to do than argue with fools,but the post will stand.
     
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    No you do not worry me what so ever as the sun does not create pollution like man made global warming that causes the hot house affect ;)
    Its common sense so again please take your nitpicking else where if you are looking to only create degrading insults, thank you.
     
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    Please stick around WestV. Great Post--cant give you points--will try again later. Stan
     
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    So funny
     
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    All I did was use the post that YOU posted.
    If man made heat isn't heating the oceans, then why did you post it? See, you just contradicted yourself.

    Hell,I even fudged it in your favour and it still came up insanely skewed towards the sun.
    To quote your article:
    "Scientists have long known that more than 90 percent of the heat energy from man-made global warming goes into the world's oceans instead of the ground. "

    So I should use that 90% of the sun instead of 71% (the oceans cover the earth) and it'd be even worse for you.
    So add 26% (multiply by 1.26) onto my figures that means 570 zettajoules a day is hitting the oceans.

    So if it takes mankind 18 years to dump 150 zettas in,that now means it'd take us 68 (570/150 x 18) years to accomplish what the sun does in a day.

    You make cool tools though,suggest you stick to that.

    Quack!!!!
     
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    Myark, I find much more humor in it then you so stuff it.
     
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    Overfishing causing global catches to fall three times faster than estimated
    http://www.theguardian.com/environm...hes-to-fall-three-times-faster-than-estimated

    Global fish catches are falling three times faster than official UN figures suggest, according to a landmark new study, with overfishing to blame.

    Seafood is the critical source of protein for more than 2.5 billion people, but over-exploitation is cutting the catch by more than 1m tonnes a year.

    The official catch data, provided by nations to the UN’s Food and Agriculture Organisation (FAO), rarely includes small-scale, sport or illegal fishing and does not count fish discarded at sea. To provide a better estimate, more than 400 researchers around the world spent a decade finding other data to fill in the gaps.

    The results, published in the journal Nature Communications, show the annual catches between 1950 and 2010 were much bigger than thought, but that the decline after the peak year of 1996 was much faster than official figures.

    “We can see more clearly now, for example, the immense value of fish to poor people in developing countries,” he said. “We can see how industrial fisheries from developing countries are robbing these people of livelihoods and food.
     
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    :confused: make your mind up ;)
     
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    Declaring a year the warmest on record doesn't make it so. And even IF it was, how MUCH warmer?
    And the declaring it's human caused? Eror upon eror.

    http://www.factcheck.org/2015/04/obama-and-the-warmest-year-on-record/

    Article explains some of the frailty of such declarations.

    And in the NOAA chart of temperatures, the last 20 years since 1995 definitely give the impression we are reaching the crest of the hill.

    Enlarged and cropped it for you to see 1995 to present clearer.

    As I've said countless times, roman warm period 2000 years ago and medieval warm period 1000 years ago and current warm period are a natural cycle and CO2 has nothing to do with it.


    Don't get confused by the long continuous temperature rise prior to 1940s.
    Blaming THAT rise on manmade CO2 will get you laughed at!
    The technology of the time was mostly steam. :p
     

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    What a stupid comparison.

    What would be more accurate is: The amount of man made heat in zettajoules in one year is comparable to what the sun puts down in about 21 minutes.


    Workup:
    -let's average the man made zettajoules to a year so 150/18 = 8.33 zj a year.
    -Use the 570 zj per day the sun is dumping, at 86,400 seconds (60x60x24) that means (570/86400) .006597 zettajoules per second.

    -To equal the 8.33 man made zettajouless per day we divide 8.33 by .006597 = 1262 seconds.
    -1262 seconds,60 seconds in a minute means 21 minutes.
     
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