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http://scienceofdoom.com/2014/08/12...o2-and-water-vapor-so-more-ghgs-more-cooling/

"If there were no radiatively-active gases (aka “GHG”s) in the atmosphere then the atmosphere couldn’t cool to space at all.
Technically, the emissivity of the atmosphere would be zero. Emission is determined by the local temperature of the atmosphere and its emissivity. Wavelength by wavelength emissivity is equal to absorptivity, another technical term, which says what proportion of radiation is absorbed by the atmosphere. If the atmosphere can’t emit, it can’t absorb (note 2).

So as you increase the GHGs in the atmosphere you increase its ability to cool to space. A lot of people realize this at some point during their climate science journey and finally realize how they have been duped by climate science all along! It’s irrefutable – more GHGs more cooling to space, more GHGs mean less global warming!"

 

The ERBE satellite data is reality of heat radiating away from earth.
Drew a red box around it.
The other boxes are climate models.
They all predicted reducing re-radiation thus retaining more heat.
Obviously reality is contrary to predictions.

 

The climate models predicted a hotspot in the atmosphere of accumulating heat.
Reality of data shows it a myth.

 

Hansens 1988 and IPCC's 1990 predictions compared to satellite data reality.

 

And the winner by knockout is....

(above posts excerpted from www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gDErDwXqhc )

 

Our planet and it's systems are VERY well designed.
But if you insist, you can continue to put your faith in the IPCC and the socialist alarmists.
Misplaced in my opinion.

 

Regards the many posts about over fishing and chemicals and garbage pollution in the ocean. Serious problems.
Wish I knew a remedy.
One other than vegetarianism.
I'm a healthy 67. Must be eating right.
Change my diet? Why?
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

 

The USA isn't over populated or over populating. Only immigration keeps our population from declining. Since 1968.

Most of developing nations problems can be directly apportioned to over population and high birth rates.
Seems the only ethical solution is they voluntarily produce fewer kids.
Since it would be unethical to force that on them, I can only conclude it's also unethical to encourage them to continue over populating.
Natural balances curb over population in other species, except when man interferes.
I suggest shipping food and medicines to over populated areas is misguided though well intentioned encouragement to continue populating.
While that sounds coldhearted, isn't supporting them exasperating the problem? Creating MORE misery and greater future problems?

"If you can't say something nice, say nothing" is an old adage. Doctors take an oath to "First, do no harm!"

 

You might want to tell the people trying to over-run our nation and destroy our way of life to practice the ethics of having fewer kids.
Good luck with that approach.
Europe has now been over-run. See what happens to them now.

 

At least you know vegetarianism is the correct answer to solve over fishing, how ever at 67 years old you look much much older in the picture trying to place your foot in your mouth.

 

The US has the developed-world problem not of over-population so much, but of over consumption. That is a problem whether you believe in AGW or not.

I hope doctors also take an oath to look beyond the end of their own noses.

 

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China's craze for 'aquatic cocaine' is pushing two species into oblivion
http://www.theguardian.com/environm...ine-vaquita-totoaba-mexico-endangered-extinct

Affluent Chinese are putting two Mexican species at risk due to demand for dried swim bladders. But will this year’s Cites meeting on the wildlife trade force a crackdown?

Many would probably find the idea of consuming a fish’s swim bladder unappetizing. More still would be unwilling to part with £2,000 for such a bladder, otherwise known as a maw. But China’s demand for swim bladders from a giant Mexican fish – the totoaba – is not only putting it at risk, but also the world’s smallest porpoise, the vaquita (“little cow” in Spanish). Today, there are fewer than 100 vaquitas in the world, and no one knows how many totoaba are left. Given the dire state of these two species, conservationists hope that a meeting of the international convention on endangered species (Cites) in Geneva this week will take strong action.

“The vaquita’s extinction clock stands at one minute to midnight and the species is being pushed into oblivion by the demand of a relatively small number of Chinese consumers of totoaba maw,” said Clare Perry, the team leader of the Environmental Investigation Agency’s (EIA) oceans campaign.

The EIA has just released a new report on the trade that finds totoaba swim bladders are still openly sold in Guangzhou and Hong Kong as well as online. The maws have been dubbed “aquatic cocaine” due to prices that currently range from £1,750 to £6,500 – even after prices dropped 60-80% in the last two years, according to the EIA.

Perry said that the swim bladders are largely bought by wealthy Chinese as “collection items or gifts” and even as financial investments.

Swim bladders are a special organ in some fish that controls their buoyancy like ballast in a ship. Traditional Chinese medicine claim that swim bladders from the fish family, Sciaenidate (including totoaba), are curatives for variety of ailments. However, scientific research has yet to find any health benefits from consuming the gas-filled bladder.

But what does the illegal trade in totoaba swim bladders have to do with vaquitas? Fishermen use gillnets to catch totoaba, which, unintentionally, entrap vaquita too. When caught, vaquitas suffocate and drown. In 1997, conservationists estimated a total population of 567 vaquitas. Last year, they detected only 97 individuals. The entire decline has been laid at the feet of gillnet fishing in the Gulf of California for shrimp, fish and shark – and increasingly totoaba.

 

My comments about over fishing and over crowding and over reaching are pertinent to the fact the USA has it's OWN problems it needs to attend.
Who decided the USA needed to be the sugar daddy for the rest of the world?
Speaking about ethics, demanding by law MY money, so someone else can give it away to what ever cause makes them feel good, is theft!
I vote we make them political thieves feel real bad! For a long time!

 

This is pseudo-science, technobabble. Sounds like the result of someone misapplying some limited scientific knowledge. Either that, or they are deliberately misleading people.

Heat is transferred in a number of ways. Conduction, convection and radiation. Everything radiates heat. That is called infrared light. It is the mechanism by which FLIRs (infrared cameras) work. Radiated heat is light. It moves at the speed of light.

Ever notice that on a clear night your car windshield ices up? While if it is cloudy it won't? That's because when it is cloudy the radiated heat from the surface of the Earth is being reflected back down. When clear the windshield - and everything else loses heat - to space.

Sure, a small portion of that heat is caught by the atmosphere but most of it, being light, travels through our clear atmosphere unimpeded and is lost to space. Heat does not have to be absorbed into the atmosphere before being released to space.

 

GHGs is greenhouse gasses. Not all gasses block/absorb radiation (light, heat, xrays, ect).
Oxygen doesn't, or very little. O2 is not a greenhouse gas. It's transparent, as you speculate.
Co2 is a minor greenhouse gas compared to other GHGs because it only absorbs infrared radiation (IR) in three narrow bands of wavelengths, which are 2.7, 4.3 and 15 micrometers (µM). All infrared is only about 100 µM wide.
The point of the article I posted is the same quality that allows CO2 to absorb, allows it to radiate the heat up as well as down, escaping to space. Water vapor does also.
It's NOT a one way street.
It is intended for my series of posts to point out why the climate models are wrong.
They have been proven wrong by the observed data, and the climate scientists lamented they couldn't explain why.
The science on AGW is indeed settled. It's flawed.
We aren't going to go back to horse and buggy because of a debunked hypothesis.

Glass windows exhibit black body effect when background is a black sky. Radiating away heat, they can fog or even freeze in frigid outside air. A cloudy overcast sky reduces the blackbody radiation effect of the glass dramatically.