Ocean Kite Sailing-How to solve the problems with very light airs and sudden squalls?

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  1. Manie B
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    Interesting ideas for small boats
     

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    What I am looking for is a kite that can fly unattended if you lost your mast.
    It should be able to stay up in varying wind conditions and should be cheap and easy to build and replace, when it gets into the water from heavy gusts it should just be a simple matter of reeling it in and let it fly again when wind conditions are more favourable. This way you can have 2 or 3 different kites on board for different wind conditions. My experiments so far were very encouraging and my KAP rig is ok. It takes time and practice but I am very sure that it will work well. In other words a small boat with a kite is MUCH better than to scull or row. From my experimentation so far I am confident that you would be able to broad reach reasonably well
     
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    There's a telescopic mast for kite launching foreseen on the KiteTender 1010 in post #1 Quote: ‘‘ Telescopic mast for Kite launching ’’

    That should be OK for launching the kite when there is enough wind down below. But I don't think the telescopic mast reaches far above the ocean swell. So if there's only a little wind high up there, then the telescopic mast won't be able to reach it I think. So maybe the other above ideas could be more helpful in this situation . . :)

    The ocean swell in windlessness is not left over slop, but is swell that travels there from long distances, it could come from a distance as far as the other side of the globe...

    Swell (ocean) ---> Swell dissipation
     
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    This is what I want to experiment with Rokkaku

    http://www.my-best-kite.com/rokkaku-kite.html
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rokkaku_dako

    the idea is that these kites can fly unattended for extended periods, not like the surfing kites that needs constant attention
     
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    Thanks Tiny, very informative [​IMG]

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    Below some more videos and articles about Anne Quéméré's kiteboat projects . . . .


    A solution for the red marked parts in below quotes is the main topic of this thread . . :idea:

    Without that solution a mast and traditional sails would be more versatile on the ocean I think, as they will move the boat slowly out of there with just very little wind.

    Latitude 38 ~ 2008-12-10
    Surfer Today - 11 December 2008
    More info can be found through these pictures . . :cool:
     
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    BTW, of course the biggest and also difficult trick for all sailboats is to sail a course where the barometer remains ± the same value around the doldrums, so you go around them without entering at the cost of some extra miles . . :)

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    In below video some other interesting kiteboat projects . . . .

     
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    Kiteboat Project: move the cursor over the ‘‘Navigate’’ button on top of the page.​
     
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    What is interesting is that they get line pulls of 25 lbs
    What I am hoping for is those kind of line pulls with a kite that attends to itself
    As a backup device if you can get up to a 2 kn boat speed - you have increased your survivability substantially
    My thinking is 3 different sizes of Rok's will get you to the next harbour
    far far better than rowing or sculling for hours
    20kg pull at 1.5m/s is 300w approx. which falls well within the scope of Freeship specs for the Ten
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoqsWDpuO5Y&list=WL&index=60
    :confused:
     
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    A kite would sure make a nice jury rig, I think Maud Fontenoy wished she had one, instead she managed to salvage the huge boom and raise it as a mast . . .

    Latitude 38 - March 19, 2007
    More here.

    P.S. - Found this video with the original mast still in place.
     

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    /\ While I like the "kite as jury rig" idea, would a kite be flying in such light winds, given Quemere's experiences? And wouldn't retrieving a kite that has splashed down also be extremely difficult?
     
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