ocean conditions are changing due to Rapid Global Climate Shift

We have a very gracious moderator.

 

I don't deny climate is changing and oceans are changing. They always have and always will. so, how does that change our boating?
Insisting the change is manmade will only embroil you in an argument that you can't win. The world is NOT going to adopt your social engineering!

 

The last thing that Thomas Friedman said in the interview about his view of a Carbon Tax (and a number of other topics) was:

Mother Nature is just chemistry, biology and physics. You can’t sweet-talk her. You can’t talk her up, you can’t talk her down. You can’t say “Mother Nature, we’re having a recession. Could you take a year off?” Mother Nature always bats last, and she always bats 1000. Do not mess with Mother Nature.

http://onpoint.wbur.org/2013/04/24/tom-friedman

 

Someday in not TOO distant future, people will laugh and ridicule this era when a significant segment (though not a majority) of the population believed co2 was a pollutant!

 

The USA, China, India, and some other countires will NOT adopt or permit or pay a carbon tax. You are spinning your wheels!

 

According to NASA CO2 actually causes cooling.

http://principia-scientific.org/sup...y-proves-carbon-dioxide-cools-atmosphere.html

"NASA's Langley Research Center has collated data proving that “greenhouse gases” actually block up to 95 percent of harmful solar rays from reaching our planet,"

 

Xinhua, China News Service | China to introduce carbon tax: official

 

Global Cooling?

Russian Scientists say period of global cooling ahead due to changes in the sun
Posted on April 29, 2013 by Anthony Watts

From Radio Voice of Russia:

Russia’s Pulkovo Observatory: “we could be in for a cooling period that lasts 200-250 years”

Scientists at Russia’s famous Pulkovo Observatory are convinced that the world is in for a period of global cooling.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/04/...obal-cooling-ahead-due-to-changes-in-the-sun/

 

It will be interesting to see all the warmnologists trying to get their boats to the water when it is all frozen over.

 

Gee, an article in a tabloid making preposterous claims and backing them up by citing "Russian scientists?" Never seen that one before...

Where's Bat

 

Since other keep posting climate related information I thought I would too.

good for you Troy, just dismiss everything out of hand that disagrees with your new found belief system. No investigation, no critical reveiw of data, just your bias makes it false?

So, you are now a bigot and a xenophobe just because it was Russian scientists who disagree with your ideas?

There are links there where you can follow it to the source. And since you are clearly a open minded individual who will consider all available science fairly and objectively, I posted the link to the source.

and your educated opinion is????

 

Didn't you say you were more than qualified on science matters because you are related to a scientist.

 

no, i never wrote any such thing. Go back and read it. I am educated in science, as is the rest of my family.

 

Your chart shows that the solar cycle peaked most recently about 1950, and has been decreasing since then. However, the chart below shows that global temperatures have been climbing sharply since 1950. Why would temperatures be rising if the declining solar cycle was the dominant driver of temperature?

 

first of all, it is not "my" chart. And I noticed the same thing, it is a measure of solar influx. Perhaps it is a solar flux is leading indicator, and the average global temps will soon follow.

consider that there has been no increase in average global temp since 1998, you chart cuts off about there so you do not see it.



Also, in view of long term cycles, it all looks within normal range and we may indeed be in for cooling if the typical ice age cycle from the past still holds valid. Cooling would be really bad for the population, worse than warming. But it is too early to tell. Or if we are lucky maybe the green house gases we are adding will counteract the cooling, and we get stable temps on the earth for the first time in history.