ocean conditions are changing due to Rapid Global Climate Shift

Once again, you're saying things that simply aren't true. That seems to be a habit of yours....

Apparently you're confusing 'who makes the most noise' with 'who has the most people on his side.' A convincingly clear majority of Americans believe climate change is real, and is being caused or exacerbated by human activity. Here's a summary of the latest polls:
http://www.motherjones.com/blue-marble/2012/10/americans-are-finally-warming-climate-change

And while we're at it, you're also confused about where the feds spend their money. California sends a lot more money to Washington than it gets back -- unlike like most of the so-called 'conservative' states, where people rail against government spending while sucking in those federal bucks and benefits. So who would end up on the short end of the stick if we separated into separate countries? I guarandamntee it wouldn't be California. Reality check: if California became an independent country, we'd be the fifth largest economy in the world.

Please get your facts straight before your next rant.....

 

I have some questions that need answering.
Since there are so many ancient cities under water, does anyone have any theories or has read up on how this came to be?
Cause surely it wasn't global warming due to the methane producing cows and donkeys that did it.
I may be wrong.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nZy75y2EZU&NR=1&feature=endscreen

If these people are being poled and used as statistical data then the Easter bunny is real. I should know Santa Clause told me.

 

When the last ice age ended, the water levels rose, sinking many paleolithic settlements. You can find them off the coast of Florida and around the world. Some say the current temps are at the crest of the wave before we start sliding into the next ice age, which will re-expose many of those ancient sites.

http://www.flheritage.com/facts/reports/contexts/paleo.cfm

"Less than 100 Paleoindian sites are recorded in Florida. These known sites are scattered around the state and their recording is primarily a result of accidental discoveries. Many more Paleoindian sites undoubtedly exist, but they are located offshore on the continental shelf, in terrestrial wet areas, or are deeply buried. These inaccessible locations make it difficult to identify Paleoindian sites, and our ignorance of them has biased our interpretation of Paleoindian culture."

 

Why am I not surprised you're getting your data from a mythological person who's mainly created and sustained by greeting card companies?

 

Ok now we are going somewhere. Thank you for your input. So what causes the beginning of an ice age and what ends it?

 

You're right; it wasn't. So what's your point?

No one has ever claimed that every case of coastal subsiding or ocean level change is attributable to human-caused global warming, any more than they've claimed it was the cause of the Sahara abruptly changing from a fertile area of lakes and grassy plains into a desert.

Pointing out there have been climate and environmental changes not related to human activity is like pointing out there have been deaths and robberies not attributed to a murder suspect.... it's interesting reading, but irrelevant to the case at hand.

 

Whaddayamean?

 

I love those posters....hahahaha

 

The Sun or lack thereof.

 

I'm not ranting and I'm not shrill, troy.

I'm just pointing out, you are doomed to be disapointed in attempt to push AGW or manmade climate change as a reason for more government controlled social engineering.
The present government will bankrupt america with the socialist programs already funded by huge indebtedness.
and the larger world will not agree to not develope.

So...forget it.

rather:

How as an individual and family will you survive the calamity you predict? cause if it's coming, you have zero chance of stopping it.

I'm not frustrated. I have no other agenda other than survival, and God willing, I and mine will. What ever ocurrs.

 

Good-looking pup. I walked down to Jack in the Box a couple of hours ago for lunch, and one of the rentals I passed had a new pair of dogs in the yard. They're small, white, fluffy and cute, and obviously like to believe they're pit bulls or rottweilers -- at least as long as they're safely on the other side of the fence.

I like dogs... back when I was a meter reader, a guy who heard what I did for a living said, "boy. I'll bet you must hate dogs." I told him, "don't be ridiculous. If I didn't get along fine with dogs, this job would've driven me crazy a long time ago."

 

Get yours straight. This is from the url you posted:

From the survey:

How worried are you about global warming?
Very worried 16%
Somewhat worried 42%
Not very worried 25%
Not at all worried 17%

How much do you think global warming will harm you personally?
A great deal 16%A moderate amount 26%Only a little 25%Not at all 20%Don’t know 13%

How much do you think global warming will harm your family?
A great deal 18%
A moderate amount 28%
Only a little 23%Not at all 17%Don’t know 14%

It is one thing for people to acknowledge that something is real but it is another thing for people to acknowledge that something is a big enough threat at the 'very/great deal' level, to motivate them to part with several thousand dollars to fight that threat. Polls that measure people rank global warming compared to other threats and concerns, illustrate that Americans rate global warming either last or second to last as a concern for them. The Yale Study is meaningless as a measure of engagement or willingness to spend money on global warming by Americans. Here is the question that supports that only 23% of Americans think global warming is an important issue. This is why I think it is not being brought up by the president.

How important is the issue of global warming to you personally?
Extremely important 6%
Very important 17%Somewhat important 36%Not too important 24%Not at all important 17
http://www.motherjones.com/blue-marble/2012/10/americans-are-finally-warming-climate-change

 

Oh, I totally agree with you -- we're screwed. There isn't the chance of a snowball in Hell we'll ever get anything meaningful done in time to stop AGW, so we're destined to live with the consequences.

Will it be a 'calamity'? I don't think so; people have survived worse in the past. We'll adapt one way or another, and deal with it. The pity is that it's going to be a classic example of an ounce of prevention being worth a pound of cure..... and our children and grandchildren are going to get stuck with carrying those pounds, because we were unable to get our **** together and supply the needed ounces instead.

 

I agree with YOU!
Also sadled with a national debt beyond any justification.
spent more in 5 years than cost all the wars US ever fought? WHOA!