ocean conditions are changing due to Rapid Global Climate Shift

I dunno -- specific energy resources may be finite, but that doesn't necessarily make the end of civilization inevitable. And the predictions included in Duncan's theory are already off track big-time:

 

Oh you know me troy- I don't take that wiki bit seriously.
Or at least haven't looked at the problem enough to know if it has merit.
I just have long thought that we are throwing away wonderfully useful stuff when we burn up our fossil fuel reserves.

I was not one of the peak oil guys but a friend of mine took it very seriously. He ran off to the middle of the country somewhere where he figure he could join some Middle Ages patterned agrarian community for the collapse of agribusiness and starvation of cities that some pundents were predicting for what 2011??

I just tossed that bit in for fun as another esteemed forum member had mentioned it over on the 'loose your shirt in the markets' thread...

 

It is about re-distribution of wealth. "The Olduvai Theory - Toward Re-Equalizing the World Standard of Living." = Take from the producers and give to the non-producers.

 

Been paging through you dog eared Atlas Shrugged again Hoyte?

"Do not ever say that the desire to "do good" by force is a good motive. Neither power-lust nor stupidity are good motives."
Ayn Rand

 

I thought it was an interesting post regardless; thanks for the link.

 

Isn't that the essence of capitalism? Take from the producers and give to the non-producers? I sure don't see the people who actually produce the goods and services getting rich....

 

Thats communism..no choice
People work to better themselves and in most western countries someone takes risk to create those jobs
Good government determines exactly what that division of profit is.
I know a guy who cuts lettuce for McDonalds in OZ. he's now rich as he cuts it for all of McD's in OZ

Merry Christmas
and here's to your new year....
A milestone under Obama
US deficit has hit 16 Trillion, so I/3 of US debt now created whilst he has been in office.
If it continues at this rate there will have been as much debt created under Obama than by all other presidents added together before he leaves office.
That will be in the Guinness Book of World Records for sure!!
I wonder if they teach that to school kids..... as they will be working to pay it back. Do they teach them that as well?
I wonder if they spend more time on climate change or the deficit at school these days?

 

The essence of capitalism is to produce goods and sell them to people who want to buy them, and buy things you want from people who want to sell them and not be forced to buy or sell things you don't want to buy or wish to part with. Capitalism is free market whilst Communism is slavery.

 

Yes, I suppose capitalism is free market. Everyone has the right to starve, if they don't like the wages being offered by those capitalists you adore so much.

Personally, I think that if a business can't pay a living wage to its employees, it has no business being in business. We shouldn't be allowing Walmart to man its stores with part timers who are making so little that the government has to pick up the slack with food stamps and health care.

I also think loyalty should be a two-way street. I'm not impressed by employers who want loyalty from their workers, while reserving the right to jack them around at will.

 

Good government should fix that

 

Living wages? For teenagers? They need those low paying jobs as a training bed for future advancement. They usually live with mommy and/or daddy while they learn how to live. Wages set too high means businesses can't afford to hire the untrained unknowledgable apprentices who could have otherwise risen in the ranks of those businesses. People should also be allowed to earn a living without being forced into giving a cut of their wages to some labor union. Climate change is a phenomenon always with us. We are now headed into an ice age but you pseudo-elites are unable to grasp that fact.

 

I recommend the book http://www.amazon.com/Liberalism-Mental-Disorder-Savage-Solutions/dp/1595550437

 

That's a bunch of political hooey.

The national debt has increased 5 trillion dollars under Obama, but a lot of it is due to actions by other people, especially Bush -- who cut taxes in the middle of fighting two wars, pushed through a Medicare part D benefit with absolutely no price controls on the drug companies, and started the stimulus package that became necessary to keep us out of the recession his administration's lack of oversight and regulation allowed to happen -- a recession which most likely would have been the worst in our history since the Great Depression.

And what do we have in Congress now? A bunch of idealogues who are religiously opposed to raising any tax any amount on anyone, much less going back to the tax rates we had before Bush's cuts. At the same time, they're screaming about the deficit, as though the lower tax revenue has nothing to do with it. Instead they want to keep tax rates low for the wealthy, and balance the budget on the backs of the poor and elderly.

 

Obama will now be saddled with the legacy of the previous administration. Obama's.

 

If you're getting your political 'facts' and viewpoints from Michael Savage, it explains a lot. No wonder you have a shaky grasp on reality....