ocean conditions are changing due to Rapid Global Climate Shift

Hi Troy

We have radically different views on the purpose of government. I believe our founding fathers designed OUR government to protect our freedoms.

Laws are made to insure one mans freedom dosn't infringe on anothers.

Is the climate changing? Always has. Always will. It's not a valid reason to abandon our freedoms.

As to fight? My pointing out the achilles heel of the socialists steering the climate change agenda, (it's a political agenda!) is one way of fighting oppression.

Let's all hope it doesn't deteriorate to a necessity of gun battles, to protect our rights.

I voluntarily reduced my carbon footprint, and working on doing more. That's freedom. Someone else forcing me to pay more for non-compliance with their will, or restrict me in my freedoms and options, is anti-american.

 

I'll give you an example of my working on doing more. I just returned to mexico after 3 months spent cutting up fiberglass wrecks of boats. I salvaged a lot of frp components to include in my catamaran conversion. Good for me, because it was free, costing only sweat and thought. Good for the owner of the wrecks, because he has less frp to haul away and dispose of and now in smaller pieces. Good for the planet, because, what I harvested now doesn't go nto a land fill.

 

Freedom is a much over-used and abused word, that often gets thrown around pointlessly and willy nilly. And obviously, freedom carried too far simply becomes anarchy.

I'm not pursuaded that laying rules on people to prevent them from further garbaging up a world that everyone has to live in is anti-American, or that it interferes with their 'freedom.'

When it comes to what I believe our government was designed for, I think this quote sums it up rather nicely:

How much protection to provide, and how best to provide it, are the essential questions.

 

To much government interferes with a citizens duty to be personally responsible for their own actions.

The pollution, climate change issue is all about personal responsibility.

If you cant handle this responsibility, the gov with be forced to dictate your actions.

If you are not bright enough to choose a fuel efficient boat or car, home heating system , avoid useless airplane rides , eat seasonal crops, live close to your work ... the gov will do it for you

Less waste, considered consumption and personal responsibility needs to be hammered home.

 

But you want us all to pay insurance on EPIRB and VHF

i'snt this exactly opposite to what you said above

 

The change from Global Warming was to Global Change was done by US Politicians like George Bush because they wanted to dumb down the real problem.

You are going to look silly fighting the changes in the atmosphere you breath, the ocean you fish in, the climate that grows your food.

Good luck with that .

 

I still want my 1-2m of sea level rise. Got a boat to launch real soon now...

Meanwhile the local climate is fine. Unlike some of the wannabe back to the land types living on overpriced boats, I've been feeding myself off of the rapidly ripening berry bushes (raspberries and young berries, red currants etc still ripening) and the cherries are maybe a week or less from fully ripe. Not much doing with the apricots & nectarines this year but the quince is loaded and there's going to be more apples than 4 people *and* the wallabies can possibly eat. Apple cider using champagne yeast might be the go. Next year I'll plant some more nut trees and whatever else takes my fancy.

Oh and BTW - satellite data shows no global warming for the last 16 years and sea level rise is running at less than the early predictions, so it keeps getting revised. Down. Pity. Plan B is in order.

All that and pumping massive amounts of CO2 into the atmosphere by burning fossil fuels is still idiotic & short-sighted.

PDW

 

Bravo.

 

If people aren't competent to run their own lives they certainly should not try to run the lives of others.

 

It gets weird when the conservatives start quoting the hippies...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUKijChIIzc

 

It all depends upon whose ox is getting gored.

 

On this point- I see a similarity in "freedoms" being infringed upon acts which are in turn "freedoms" which must be censured to protect others.
At some juncture the society has to choose when regulations are needed.

I suppose you would bunch CAFE regulations as being another "ox being gored"
How about regulating PCB releases into waterways?
More government out of control?

If I may be impolite- you have been taken as the fool and don't even realize it.

Starting after Rachel Carson Silent Spring, pro business politicos formed a agenda in the United States to posture all environmental activities as being anti an affront to freedoms, fringe, socially destructive etc etc.
That feeling you have of real affront over these issues was put in your conscience by simple advertising.

 

DDT. Yum.

 

I agree. The results of 50 years of social engineering have not been positive. IMHO.

What I find most ironic, they do not want to change themselves, but they change others. Gore pollutes more in a year than I will in a lifetime, easily. And then there is their attitude about family.

They have great PR. But, I don't know if I am willing to live with them in control of everything.

wayne

 

Who are "they"?