not sure what I'm going to do at this point

Discussion in 'All Things Boats & Boating' started by Boston, Sep 26, 2010.

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  1. Boston

    Boston Previous Member

    in todays climate its clearly more advantagious to buy than build however havin just got screwed out of what I considered the perfect boat I'm a bit at a loss
    I could go into debt and buy the elco I've always wanted or I could continue looking

    to disapointed to really think straight at this point

    not sure what I'm going to do but I am determined to retire back to the water one way or another

    cheers
    B
     
  2. troy2000
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    troy2000 Senior Member

    I kind of fell in love with the Haida Princess, when you started negotiating for her. But she's far from the only boat for sale. If you lose her you shouldn't give up looking for another bargain that could put you on the water--if for no other reason than to give you a taste of life aboard, and help you decide what's really important in a boat.
     
  3. mydauphin
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    mydauphin Senior Member

    Don't be in a rush. Never want anything so bad that you can't think straight. Want it less, negotiate more and do your detail work better. You will be happier later.
     
  4. Brian@BNE
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    Brian@BNE Senior Member

    Make hay while you can. It always comes in useful. Next time the boss throws all his toys out of the cot and fires you, relocate to some water (maybe along the Columbia?) and do the same kinda work as you do now. There's always a need for good workmanship fixing up builders mistakes or storm damage, so with your skills you can relocate easily. You might be able to get some leads from some of the insurers involved with your Denver work. Getting started will be the trickiest part. But if you really are done with Colorado then start planning the move now, even though you are back working.

    Then real soon another great boat will come along, and you'll have a place to work on it.
     
  5. mark775

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    Bos, I believe 1912 was the year. The oldest working tug on the west coast the year before last but no longer working (at least she hasn't made a trip here in two years). She will be a museum if nobody buys her. I wud if I cud and keep it in my "stable". I love this thing like few I have encountered but $95,000, not efficient as set-up, small cabin for her size - BUT WHAT A BOAT!

    Mark 066.jpg

    Mark 068.jpg

    In fact, looking at her, I may have another stab if you don't - I really don't want to see somebody ruin her (add a big cabin, paint her white, remove the winch, etc.) Boats like this cud see another hundred years with care. Quiet, stable, warm - for her size, how can she be topped?
     
  6. Boston

    Boston Previous Member

    one thing that really struck me about the princes was the sharpie bottom with a deep keel my bet is she was pretty efficient on fuel

    I found a 1917 Hershoff sitting abandoned in a yard up in Wash but they dont have a clear tittle yet and I'm not sure what kinda shape its in.

    deal is I really wanted a flat top

    [​IMG]

    I found this one but its bound to be in the 100k range
     
  7. PAR
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    PAR Yacht Designer/Builder

    The most important thing about yacht purchases, is to remain a cool neurosurgeon like mentally about the process. The more you like a yacht, the more emotionally "detached" you must be. What I usually do is try to shoot down my own balloon with continuous mental barbs. Little mental tricks like" Damn, she's gorgeous . . . just like my ex-wife, the *****". "She's got everything I need, just the way I like it, which with my luck means she'll fail her survey miserably . . . " This constant battle to burst my own bubble helps keep me grounded and detached. I've also purchased many yachts over the years, some investments, others as pure love affairs, so I have a crust built up around my heart about them now. In your case, the best thing you can do is constantly attempt to make negative notations about a prospective yacht. "Yea, she's pretty, but those plank seams aren't". "Man an Elco from hell, I'll bet those pocketed frame ends are rotten (common issue with flat top Elcos)".

    Always assume there's something going to screw the pooch on the deal, so your mind is prepared for the eventuality of not actually buying it. The reason is quite simple, you'll look at and really like many yachts as you try to find yours. You can't afford to fall in love with each during the search, there's just too many to like. Lastly, don't be in such a hurry to get your *** kicked. You will pass on dozens of yachts, before finally settling on the baby of your dreams. Savor the ride, because she'll be kicking your *** in no time. The newness and shine wear off pretty quickly with old wooden yachts, so don't be in such a hurry to notice all her arm pit hairs on the first date . . .
     
  8. Boston

    Boston Previous Member

    28000

    [​IMG]

    only have the one picture but I sent em a note and we will see whats up

    not my first choice but the investigation will keep me amused and I suppose the more I look at the better my chances
     
  9. Angélique
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    Angélique aka Angel (only by name)

    Here 5 pics of that boat.

    Cheers,
    Angel
     
  10. troy2000
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    Leave it to Angel....:p:p
     
  11. Angélique
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    Angélique aka Angel (only by name)

    Besides the 5 pics, the ad I posted is 3k down from the one Bos got his pic from . . :idea:

    I also looked at the Elco from post #6 and saw she is going down (only the price :D) too.

    Good Luck!
    Angel
     
  12. CatBuilder

    CatBuilder Previous Member

    NEVER fall in love with a boat until after you already own her!!!!

    Even then, it's iffy!!!
     
  13. Boston

    Boston Previous Member

    I have it on fairly good authority that these boats generally sell for about half of the asking price

    I guess I'll just keep looking till I find something just right again

    48' is a lot more expensive to maintain than 36 although its bound to be a lot more comfy to live aboard

    B

    oh
    those bench seats look incredibly uncomfortable and that floor made up of some kind of what looks like liscense plates all glued together would be destined for the trash

    I wonder what teak T&G costs these days
    I can get the cheep stuff all day long at about 4 bucks a foot for the unfinished #1 in 2 1/4 but its not the marine grade stuff by a long shot
    also it comes in a variety pack of sapwood and heartwood
    I suppose for that I could pick through it but its not even from the right country
    pretty sure its yellow teak instead of the stuff from India
     
  14. Boston

    Boston Previous Member

    well that was interesting
    I just heard from the guy with the 48' er
    boat is still available and he's sending me a bunch of info

    looks pretty rough in those picts but thats kinda what I am after anyway

    what I really want is an old rotted out elco 57 flat top but I've looked and looked and just cant find one
     

  15. Boston

    Boston Previous Member

    holly **** I found one

    [​IMG]

    http://www.jarrettbayyachtsales.com/inventory/details/1812/

    but its huge

    64' that I couldn't really afford

    they are asking 30
    I could likely get it for zip but the cost of just materials on that monster would be huge

    not sure I'm as interested as I though I'd be cause it looks like its been stripped

    that and its in unbelievably bad shape
    would take a hundred thousand to bring it back

    have I mentioned I dont have a hundred thousand yet
     
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