Noahs' Ark- Better than New?

All I can tell you is the site of the crucifixion is the FOCUS of Gods creation.

Abrahams altar is above the cross. Literally. A man needs to grasp that.

The Ark of the Covenant is buried beneath (his blood fell on the mercy seat)

Nobody else is gonna tell you that.

I cant tell you how many hazards to my life I have endured by telling people this. Pirates stole my boats, sank one, and refuse to give me justice.

All because I preach the truth.

You can play the Devils game, have a good time, screw you some ho's, live it up like a king (ha ha, really just pirates).
Then go to Hell

Or you can serve the LORD.
Go through hell now, save who you can on the way and get the pleasure of jerking yourself cause your woman will not help.

But hey, I got her(them), they dont.
Besides, the baby just cries when they see mommy in a porno flick. So does thier DADDY. Then he gets mad.

That is Satans downfall. The children are OUR peers. Not his.

We, of the Church of Philidelphia, hold that position.
Our God is with us. Not with the pirates.
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Dont cry stupid, you know what I am talking about.You fellas brought all this up. I asked a question about boats and get accosted by a man arguing about farming hogs!
I will take that to FarmersForum.com

Nobody has EVER been able to find me ANYTHING approaching honest evidence discrediting my King James Bible.
It is all past, present, and future history.

 

A lot of things were made from bricks in Egypt, not just pyramids. The 18th Dynasty used bricks extensively and used slaves to make them during Moses lifetime.

 

from a non Judo-Christianity view point the cult of Christianity ( a spin off of Hellenistic paganism ) takes on a slightly different spin

 

Boston I would like to have your opinion on this site. I have spent many an hour there. The title unfortunately does'nt pay it justice. Every quote is backed up paragraph etc of where in the bible this quote is made and it invites you to criticize if you wish , there is a forum too. Eye opening to say the least.

http://www.evilbible.com/

 

on the one had I could have a field day with that site
on the other I resist saying anything that might shake another's faith

I dont have any problem questioning the mythologies presented
but I don't find it appropriate to question another's faith
might seem like splitting hairs but its an important distinction

religion is the problem not spirituality
the religion is the diatribe but faith is what you make it

some folks mime the diatribe as if it is the end all beat all
others are able to extrapolate from the mythos some really beautiful ways of life

my take is there are good people in bad places and vice versa

the real paradox is that the most effective place to illicit beneficial change is from within
not saying the Hitler youth was ever likely to become a bunch of Harry Krishna's but I would say that there are probably a majority of German people who are perfectly decent folks and they just found themselves with terrible leadership

I would apply the same logic to the Pauline Christians

and I could back it up with a lot of technical history but the point would be getting muddled

there are good people in bad places
there faith is what makes them be the decent sorts they are in the company of bad influences through poor teachings

while its pretty obvious that there is an inordinate amount of sexual deviation within the catholic church its equally as fair to say that I know some really nice people who are Catholics

it would be disrespectful to get into a lynching of the Bible
its not hard to do but it would be disrespectful

my two cents

I will however read the site as it does seem interesting and I might learn a few things

thanks for bringing it to my attention

( the boat load of one liner contradictions is hilarious I never imagined there were so many direct contradictions )
best not to comment to much on it though, while the Bible quotes are well noted almost none of the secular claims are which makes verifying any of that other stuff kinda difficult

 

Mathew 19:12 ASV Jesus tells us that castrating yourself will give you entry to the kingdom of heaven.

Bet you didnt know that did you.

One of the many many bits they don't ell yer

 

The Ark is a allegory of the faithful obedient being saved from the wrath of god. Why do people want everything in the bible to be real ?

The fundamentalist line is quite disagreeable to many christians and the Ark myth has some nasty associations as God becomes the one who drowns all other life including the innocent babies and children. Then there's all than inconvenient science such as geological time and dating methods ......

The whole US 'arkeology' industry is a thriving nest of misinformation at times downright lies and they prey on the gullible.

Any engineering analysis quickly shows the Ark to be fanciful even in the heyday of wooden boat building the maximum size of a wooden vessel was well established and it was way smaller than the biblical mythological vessel. Then theres the line trotted out by the Arkeology bretheren that the engineering structure it's all proven by some obscure person in some obscure university in Korea but it's a con as well.

Embrace the story as an educational tale, and you'll be happier since you will never harmonise reality with such a fanciful tale without some dishonesty.

A good book to read is the University Professor Plimers book called Telling lies for god ! It's a shocking expose of the fundamentalist US regime and the tactics they use.

 

Well said Lyndon, I identify myself as a Christian, but it is a FAITH based thing... One recognising that most of the biblical records are by oral tradition... Christianity or its early forms were essentially "underground" or semi secret organisations, so are best regarded as instructions and stories to help people live good and honest lives, giving respect, praise and fair dealings with others in a true understanding of each other in a living community...

Those who may claim to know the only way to God and, in so doing, convict yourself as an Antichrist organisation, - for that goes counter to the whole philosophy and teaching contained in the bible... that of INCLUSION... To take parts of the bible as separate points effectively takes the whole bible as being not relevant... A careful scholar could find an opposite quote, and counter quote, for anything else quoted, if taken in isolation - allowing a point to be presented "out of context"...

Do think carefully what is suggested here... Do not get locked into DOGMA or strange interpretations and supplementary research, The bible or the Koran and other faith core documents must stand on their own merit, As such, serve well to instruct and guide students in good moral behaviour... When supplementary instruction is added with the strength of the original, the intent of the original authors may become corrupted... The essence of Christianity is FAITH, Hope and Charity in the pure and honest sense of those words....

Do not rely on the absolute infallibility of the bible or any such book as if one day you are presented with incontestable evidence disproving some aspect of the text, then your grounds for your belief are destroyed... That is not what the bible is about... The bible has been re-written and adjusted many times, accidental and otherwise, and that line is quite easy to demonstrate... (remember the old game called "Chinese whisper"?)

 

Good post Lyndon, Embrace the story as an educational tale. Unfortunately there are radicals in every religion and each one is a pain to each religion.

 

I think MR Bill knows all this and just chooses not be believe it
in a similar fashion as he chooses to believe something else
we all do make a certain percentage of decisions based on what we wish were true and not necessarily what we know to be true or what can be proven accurate of not

I might mention the climate thread but that could spark another small uproar so Ill leave off it

point is most folks simply chose to believe something and don't typically know the particulars of what they believe

 

By observing the assumptions on which they habitually act can be known what their real believe is . . . . . .

Regards,
Angel

 

yes but I have even met some pretty down home Africans who accidentally as it was reveled the cannibalistic ways of there tribe and yet these folks were very honestly spiritual people.

I know many pagans who are probably more spiritually aware than most Christians I know

Ive met many people of various faiths that had a tremendous respect for the beliefs of others and I believe its this respect level that really defines the religious from the spiritually inclined

I mean are you adamantly adhering to the tenants of a dogma system regardless of its impact on the people around you or are you following what path brings you into closer community with the great spirit and the spirit of those around you now

I have missed several ceremonies because a friend needed help with something or was hoping I'd fix something for them for them

seems more important that I follow a better path than I follow a specific path

ok I had been invited and it might have been rude not to show up but there is a difference between simply acting out a religion and setting the physical affirmations of ceremony aside and just loading some **** in the truck for a friend

not sure if that made sense but its basically not about the individual belief systems as it is about how well that specific belief system leads one to be a decent person

Christianity is generally pretty well disrespected by most of my people ( my people often refer to Jesus as the god of the dead ) but I do not subscribe to that
Ive met many a fine christian and many a fine native believer
as I said
there are good people in all faiths
and bad people as well
just some more than others

 

Dear Angel,
I hold George Bernard Shaw in low esteem. No offense to you.

Everyone,
Some may call Christianity a cult.
That is your choice.
I am not in that group.
There is a difference in a cult and a religion.

 

no offense taken

Hoyt, no offense taken. But better to respond to the substance of this quote (especially the second sentence) then to make a comment about what you think of the person who said it.

Regards,
Angel

 

Angel, I disagree with GBS on so many levels, both in matters of religion and politics that I shall not even begin. Just take it as it is. x's and o's.