Noahs' Ark- Better than New?

Cubit may be less arbitrary than you might think. I retract this remark:"Moses worked on the pyramids" which precision is the envy of every good boat or cabinetry carpenter. It is an Pharaohnic Egyptian standard of measure. The pyramids were built over many decades to very close tolerances. I hardly think arbitrary can really be applied to the Egyptian standard of measure given what we know about it.

 

pretty unlikely that a Biblical charicter actually worked on the pyramids

firstly there date of construction goes back way farther than the presumed date of the exodus and secondly there is no real evidence that there ever even was a real person named Moses
there is however a surprising lack of archeological evidence to support the exodus story

try reading
The Bible Unearthed
and get back to me on this concept that Moses had anything to do with the pyramids

 

Since Moses is the author of the first 5 books of the Bible, his existence is a certainty. The pyramids were built across a long span of time. I will get you some time frame for comparison.

 

Death of Moses


Moses died, at the age of one hundred and twenty(b. 1391 BC), on 7 Adar 2488 (about Feb-Mar 1271 BC). I phound that he lived in Egypt during the reign of the phollowing pharaohs without phail.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramesses_I
Thutmose 4 1401-1390 BC
Amenhotep 3 1390-1350 BC
Akhenaten 1350-1334 BC
Nefertiti 1336-1334 BC
Tutankhamen 1334-1325 BC
Ay 1325-1320 BC
Horemheb 1320-1292 BC
19th Dynasty (1292-1187 BC)
• Ramses 1 moved the capital city to Avaris (Pi-Ramesse) and the cult of Seth regained importance
• Seti 1 recaptured territories lost under Akhenaten.
• Ramses 2 fought in Battle of Kadesh in 1274 BC (Moses died 3 years after the Battle of Kadesh)•

 

Nice observation. Something to contemplate.

Concerning Moses and the pyramids, consider this:

Ex 5:7 Ye shall no more give the people straw to make brick, as heretofore: let them go and gather straw for themselves.
Ex 5:8 And the tale of the bricks, which they did make heretofore, ye shall lay upon them; ye shall not diminish ought thereof: for they be idle; therefore they cry, saying, Let us go and sacrifice to our God.
Ex 5:9 Let there more work be laid upon the men, that they may labour therein; and let them not regard vain words.
Ex 5:10 ¶ And the taskmasters of the people went out, and their officers, and they spake to the people, saying, Thus saith Pharaoh, I will not give you straw.
Ex 5:11 Go ye, get you straw where ye can find it: yet not ought of your work shall be diminished.
Ex 5:12 So the people were scattered abroad throughout all the land of Egypt to gather stubble instead of straw.
Ex 5:13 And the taskmasters hasted them, saying, Fulfil your works, your daily tasks, as when there was straw.
Ex 5:14 And the officers of the children of Israel, which Pharaoh's taskmasters had set over them, were beaten, and demanded, Wherefore have ye not fulfilled your task in making brick both yesterday and to day, as heretofore?
Ex 5:15 ¶ Then the officers of the children of Israel came and cried unto Pharaoh, saying, Wherefore dealest thou thus with thy servants?
Ex 5:16 There is no straw given unto thy servants, and they say to us, Make brick: and, behold, thy servants are beaten; but the fault is in thine own people.
Ex 5:17 But he said, Ye are idle, ye are idle: therefore ye say, Let us go and do sacrifice to the LORD.
Ex 5:18 Go therefore now, and work; for there shall no straw be given you, yet shall ye deliver the tale of bricks.
Ex 5:19 And the officers of the children of Israel did see that they were in evil case, after it was said, Ye shall not minish ought from your bricks of your daily task.

Look at the unusual wear at the top of "Khufu":

 

Moses was not real and a fictional character?

I hope history remembers Sherlock homes and his worderful escapades as being a real person.

All these wonderful people like Tin Tin, James Bond that did so much for the world and then later people say --Oh he was'nt real you know he was made up.

Any way that cant happen now because everything Sherlock did is written down in a book so its gotta be remembered as true.

Its so confusing why do people make up lies and tell "stories" justto entertain us,-- damn Hollywood.

 

Egyptology places the construction of the pyramids in the first dynasty or approximately 2500 BC

this is one of the youngest ages of the pyramids to be reported, one of the oldest places elements of the complex as being built around 10,500 BC ( Hapgood)

the only time in which all the towns mentioned in the Moses narrative existed all at the same time was approximately 750 BC (Silberman and Finklestien ) therefor assuming Moses was an actual person this date represents the most likely time of his existence however once again there is simply no evidence to suggest Moses was a real person

it is extremely unlikely that the Bibles Moses character had anything at all to do with building the pyramids

 

I don't think Moses had anything to do with the pyramids either. I found this:

And they built for Pharaoh treasure cities, Pithom and Raamses.

Another version of the OT stated simply "supply cities".

Exodus, chapter 1.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIiuvVxkI8k&feature=player_embedded

Well here is something to think about.

What a parting question you are left with.

 

the editing director of archeology magazine and the head of the archeological department at the university of Tel Aviv have both concluded that there is no verifiable evidence to support the exodus story

the Hyksos who would later be referred to as the Jews were a primitive mountain tribe who lived in the hills surrounding the Cannan valley. After the drought that drove out the Egyptians the Hyksos eventually migrated down into the valley. The Egyptians build a series of fortified outposts along its border with this area to keep the Hyksos out of the Nile delta area where the Egyptians grew substantial quantities of food. It is thought that the conflict of the raiding Hyksos is what eventually led to the mythological story of the conquest of the Canan valley.
But universally non secular scholars who have looked at the available data have concluded that there is simply no evidence to support the Bible story of the exodus or the conquest of the Canan valley

the film you offered makes a lot of unsubstantiated claims and suppositions
about the only part I found verifiable was the satelite imaging used to assist in archeology these days

fact of the mater is they have imaging in wave lengths that look right through the sand and they can literally find a camp fire from thousands of years ago on the dessert floor beneath the sands
there is not a shred of evidence that ~ a hundred thousand people camped out in the dessert for 40 years
and you would think they might have left a few relics behind
but absolutely none are found

yes there are camel train trails that are well known
but nothing like what would be expected from the hundred thousand or so people you are talking about

also
the Egyptians were excellent records keepers
if the pharaoh so much as farted
they wrote it down

there are hundreds of records of slaves of all types in the dynasties of Egypt
there is not a single reference to any slave being used to build the religious edifices of ancient Egypt
the Egyptians believed it would offend the Gods

same held true of foreigners they were not the chosen people

The Egyptians were insanely religious people silly as it sounds it was mostly a sex cult or at least a faith who's rituals mostly included repeating the consummating act of creation
the obelisks are phallic symbols and there are a whole lot of not so famous anatomically correct Egyptian statues that get largely ignored in the western school system
there is a lot of stuff they dont teach in school concerning the religion of the pharaohs but you would be shocked to learn what those folks were up to in some of those temples

 

I know,the men were a bunch of pervs.
Where the word "Hicks" comes from.
Get it "Hyksos"

These women were'nt women but "pieces of a$#"

Whores basicly.
That is why thier nation died.

 

I wonder what they will say of USA in 2000 years when little Capt bill the 25th is on the planet. Now theres a sobering thought.

Boy --Bill you certainly know your history, reading your words gives me a feeling you almost knew them personally.

Here you go Bill,--spend an hour or two here http://www.evilbible.com/

No faith needed just the sense you were born with.

 

No Bill it was nothing like that at all
they just had differing mores than that of today

one cann't judge a foreign belief system on the basis of a limited world view

Frosty helped me remember that not to long ago for which I am grateful

simple truth is that these people practiced an unusual form of religion in which they held the acts of procreation to me magical in some way and as such reenacted them often in there form of worship

the temple priests had a steady stream of virgins to act the roles of the rituals, Im sure the whole thing was as ritualized as any other form of Egyptian worship and no
there was no prostitution involved
you might read up on it before forming an unfavorable opinion

might not be what I believe in but they are welcome to it as you are also welcome to your individual beliefs

my thing is the history of it all
I love history and probably should go back and get a degree in it since nothing else seems to be working out these days

still flat on my back with sever back spasms

thing is even the mythos of my own belief system is merely a group of stories to relay wisdom that might bring me closer to the great spirit and my ancestors

I wouldn't pass them off as actually happening any more than I think the Bible stories represent reality either

if you really want a wake up call and you might certainly not we should have a talk about the first of the christian charlatans and his influence on the formation of the catholic church
all of which is well enough documented as to be very hard to refute
it might shed a whole new light on the early church for you if your interested
although its hard for some to accept its all basic history that the church simply does not teach its adherents

 

Boy we are straying exactly like what happened in the Ark day actually...

So here goes...
Question.
Have you ever wondered why it takes a stake to get to a vampire?

What does the seed of David have to do with that?

Is there a connection?

(gotta go. Please read my blog in my sig)

 

well I suppose when old Lord Byron devised his poetic tales he may have recently suffered from a suppurating splinter

doesn't make much difference though cause both the mythos of the vampires and the mythos of the Bible story are just that, Stories designed to entertain and enlighten

and no I dont think we are straying all that much
the presupposition of the original is that the Bible stories are true and you have asked us to accept that as you wish to consider the naval qualities of the presumed site
so I believe its important that we establish the relevance and recognize the difference of a littoral or a figurative interpretation into the fray
thus we have examples of Bible stories that are highly unlikely to be literal
like the conquest of canon or the exodus the ark and the resurrection of Jesus

anyway Ill check out your link
hope all is well
B

well that was interesting
you might check out this series