Noahs' Ark- Better than New?

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  1. hoytedow
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    You need to look at Genesis again. Days afloat did not equal 40, which is even more of a miracle. It only rained for 40 days and 40 nights. the float was much longer.
     
  2. CaptBill
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    Hey , you are right. Looks like one year and ten days. Never noticed that.

    Ge 7:11 ¶ In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.

    Ge 8:13 ¶ And it came to pass in the six hundredth and first year, in the first month, the first day of the month, the waters were dried up from off the earth: and Noah removed the covering of the ark, and looked, and, behold, the face of the ground was dry.
     
  3. Boston

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    I did not know Noah was a Chippewa
     
  4. CaptBill
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    How could they not be?
     
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    Look again at the starboard side.
    A definite opening of some sort.

    Ge 6:16 A window shalt thou make to the ark, and in a cubit shalt thou finish it above; and the door of the ark shalt thou set in the side thereof; with lower, second, and third stories shalt thou make it.
     
  6. Boston

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    wrong
    its a blob on a mountain side
    it contains possible remnants of wood
    not corroborated
    could be any fossilized woody plant growth
    it contains possible remnant of alloys
    not corroborated
    mineral traces are common to mineral rich rocks in the area
    it contains unusual plant growth patterns
    not corroborated
    any anual woody plant growth will display this same type of characteristic

    you have nothing to compel a conclusion of any kind let alone that this is the mythical site of a secular flood scenario ship

    sorry but if you want me or anyone to take a serious look at this thing you should know you are going to be expected to show verifiable laboratory evidence from at least two unbiased sources

    I to have my own flavor of spirituality however the mythology that goes with it is not taken as anything but a group of stories designed to teach valuable lessons for living in an ancient world
    while I hold dear the Great Spirit of my ancestors I have no doubt that the stories passed down over generations by those ancestors are mythologies designed to bring me a closer connection to my past my present and my future and enable me to speak in my own way with my people, everywhere


    reality to me is this connection
    not some proof of any mythical stories associated with a specific belief system
     
  7. Frosty

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    The suez was dug out by man, before that the Gibralter straits was the only access to the Mediterranean sea. It is an accepted theory that the day the sea erroded its way from the Atlantic through to flood the what is now known as the Mediterranean must have been one of the wonders of the world.

    It is thought that its rate of flood would be similar to that suggested by the "book"

    However it is a much better and believable theory than the aquatic farce of some super being flooding the world because he does'nt like it.

    Kinda in that area and fits in nicely --would'nt you say?

    By the way was it the whole world where it rained 40 days and nights or just that bit where Noah lived. I ask because they would not have CNN or BBC weather forecast and a 50 mile ride was possible by donkey in Oh 7 days, so what would they know of the rest of the worlds weather?

    As for rock formation looking like a boat, Im sure I could find a rock formation on the internet that looked like--- well what do you want, rabbit, dog , ***** perhaps, a boat is easy.
     
  8. CaptBill
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    Come on fellas'.
    I never tried to convince you of anything.
    Just want to know if the siesmographs of this old boat which give us a top profile and stations is relatively, I said relatively, typical of what you might spec for the boat ordered. Remember its a wood boat. So say, comparable to 1940s maybe?

    Pretend I never suggested whos boat it was.

    Thanks
    Honestly
     
  9. Boston

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    I think a little inner reflection might be in order lest this break down into something I wont be involved in
    for myself
    I have been outspoken on the issue of climate change
    and mostly silent on the technical aspects of yacht construction of which I know little
    sometimes remaining silent and at others joining in the frey
    I have stated my opinions sometimes to vociferously and at times my statements have lacked tact
    however
    I believe we should tread lightly on this issue of faith
    each of us must follow our own path
    for me one path and for another something else
    I say walk softly on the beliefs Bill holds dear
    if we want our own to be respected in turn

    I say peace should be the major theme of this thread

    yes if I am to be convinced I want my own forms of data in a way I can accept them

    but to each his own

    I say we let sleeping dogs lay where they will
    it does no good to offend another's faith
     
  10. CaptBill
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    Thank Boston,
    You are ok people
     
  11. Frosty

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    Fair enough Capt bill,

    Ok for my two peneth I would think that the barge would not have had any design feature of speed to cut water but that of simply to house thousands of animals for a while ( chuckle). Certainly not the shape of a modern sailing vessel.

    So,-- No I dont think that rock---formation had any reasonable potential to be that of the Ark.

    Ahhh Boston always the diplomat.
     
  12. CaptBill
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    Thanks Frosty

    So "not a good waymaker but to just float around for a year, yeah why not."

    An honest answer to an honest question.
    Just what I was after.
    Now, if I might ask one small clarifying question....
    Or better yet, a small diplomatic concession, my good fellow man....

    Couldnt we honestly say she has some awful pretty lines for a barge, Frosty?
    Gotta at least give her that, no?

    Good night fellas'
     
  13. Boston

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    the shape of the outline might be one conducive to a boat of some kind but it does not resemble the ark spoken of in the Bible

    its only similarity is in its length and even that is questionable

    a cubit being an arbitrary form of measurement
     
  14. Frosty

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    Im not a designer bill, I cant offer an opinion, I am not qualified in this field and I will get my head bitten off.
     
  15. hoytedow
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    It is also a pretty good shape for an almond or an olive pit.
     

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