Noahs' Ark- Better than New?

more on flood:http://www.nwcreation.net/noahlegends.html

 

there are tons of flood myths
almost every ancient culture has them
whats interesting is that they are all nearly identical
or at least have astounding similarities

in a nut shell
there is evidence for a world wide culture before the advent of what we think of as written history

the system of Lay lines being a great example as is the megalithic stone structures found world wide and all dating back far before recorded history

another interesting thing to note
C Knight in his book
civilization one

shows that these megalithic sites are lay'd out on a metric measurement system
and that the volume of one pint a measurement that goes back thousands of years divides perfectly into a cubic meter

another tantalizing tid bit is its not impossible that the Egyptians had aluminum
mater of fact we know they did
just not how they made it

its not impossible that world trade existed long before the Vikings landed in the new world
we know the Chinese had a fleet of giant junks and there anchors "have" been found on all continents

and we know that language has simplified from a previous complex origin

to suggest a world wide system of field lines connecting the major ancient sites is tantamount to proof that there was once a one world entity doing the planning

not suggesting God in any way
but I did collect data on a paper I was thinking of writing concerning this very subject

things are not what they appear to be
there are some technologies that we once had that are now lost and some we are just now beginning to rediscover
about the only areas that can be said to wholly belong to modern man are electronics and some aspects of transportation

 

Many so-called myths are built on some buried truth, so why assume they are lies and not a form of history passed down through oral tradition?

 

Hey Boston,
Come on. Peer reviews? That verify Noah's Ark?
All I can show you is what is there and you ask for validation in this unbelieving world.
Let's be real. You sound just like the people that scoffed at Noah, I'm sure.
Still I want to know, from a pros estimation, is this "whatever you think it is" a reasonably capable hull dimensions wise.

Note:
Before the flood the earth was watered by a mist that rose from the earth. The flood was the first time it ever rained. Totaly different atmospheric dynamics. There were no seasons if my understanding is correct. No rain= no growth rings, which is the "unusual" thing about this petrified wood in the Ark

 

Excellent observation Hoytdow. Noah was everbody "kinfolk" why would we not all share the story. Seems quite obvious.
Indins stories are so cool. You can just feel the connection to them. They all seem to hold sparks of truth.
What is spooky is how well she seems to have been made even by TODAYS standards,no?
Titanium rivets!

 

I do
if there is a real boat there it should not be to hard to prove
what you have is typical neolithic site no different than a thousand others in the same area of the world
same few metal fragments
same few wooden roof beams
and yes
if my neighbor started building an ark in my back yard Ild be laughing my *** off at him as well

hull dimensions
If I remember wooden boats are limited in size by the material itself
you would be better off asking someone else that one
Ive been hanging out here for a while now and the more I learn about boats the more I realize I dont know **** about boats
but you might want to list the dimensions of the site

there is one lab study that looks pretty incomplete to me
it was not fully reported in the article just cherry picked
not good at all
bodes ill for what the rest of it might have said

find the whole lab report and present it
the lab was easy enough for me to find
hell I even got there phone number
then we can discuss what the wood is and isnt

get the report on the metal while your at it
might make interesting reading

cheers
B

 

Here is a drouge anchor which was probably streamed from the bow or stern for stabilisation not to far from the Ark site. This would suggest that men know more than we would expect about boats pre-flood.

 

sorry but it is highly unlikely that the rock pictured was an anchor

look at the whole
no wear from the chains or ropes

also the whole is way to close to the edge to support the weight of it

the rock is a rock
nothing more

unless you have some data to present
lab studies showing the rock is not from that area and showing evidence of marine submersion maybe

you need to do more than show a few pictures there friend

data and from actual analysis
its the boon of modern archeology
bane of religion

 

Ok.
For arguments sake lets say the its not the Ark. Lets say it is a manmade object (which any one of us can figure out is a boat with the provided data).
Can we admit that?
So can we agree we are looking at a old wooden boat?
We can see the general overhead hull shape, we have siesmic verification of boatbuilding tecniques typical of today (typical bulkhead/section layout).
One "variation" being an aft "poop chute" for some reason. Like you might see in a barn.
Can we agree on these finding that our eyes can see?

If so, to rephrase the original question, if a man came up to you and said I need you to design me a 500 ft floating barnyard, would the design you present be that much different than the one SOMEBODY obviously built?

 

willing to consider that it is a man made structure
it might just as well not be though

boat
thats kinda a leap that will require some hard data to establish

sooo
no
I would no be able to agree that it is an old wooden boat

the seismic data is uncorroborated and I question the credentials of the people doing the research and there qualifications to interpret the data

our eyes can see a blob on a mountain nothing more
that and a rock with a whole in it

which unfortunately leaves the question of who built what and why yet to be formulated

its important to remain impartial and follow strict scientific protocol when investigating any possible archeological site
misinterpretation of digs around the world have led to some pretty funny mistakes being made

 

NO... Just fanciful dreams... Demonstrated to be BUNKUM long, long ago, Dream on... Look at the gear... recording straight onto metalised paper... No modern research.. No sense .. NO BRAINS...

Go to a local zoo, or even do some research on the sizes of all the major animal species, assume that they all ate straw (nicely bailed in man-handled sizes so you can do the calculations) and work out the consumption requirements and the total fodder capacity required for the 40 days afloat... If you have any common sense you will realise that as presented, IT COULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED...

The contention that that mark in the rocks could be a useful outline for a boat - HOGWASH... Go have a look at some boats of similar length - - DOES NOT HAPPEN... The strength in materials available prohibit that shape, It is inefficient to make in that size... Get off your Bs and do some digging around (on the web should suffice), and check out modern large builds - say for carrying bulk iron ore, bauxite, or grains or even the live ship transport vessels carrying sheep and cattle to the asian and middle east Muslim markets...

There is nothing here to "peer review" in any stretch of the imagination... Stop talking ******** and build a boat or something useful like clean out the stables, the **** is overflowing everywhere...

 

Better get off this little itsy bitsy spiders little thread.
Before I show you what a fanciful dream is.

Here, let me sprinkle you with some of my creditfairy dust...
As a warning if you know what I mean.

No really.
Answer the question or bug off.

 

Here are pics of the copy of the real Ark according to whom?

http://www.pbase.com/paulthedane/image/78106281

 

That is really pointing to what I am investigating. Your link picture, that is.

Was the Ark that we visualize big and boxy looking like the picture?
Or was it more sheer like a big cruiser, like this boat up in the mountains of Ararat?


That is why I ask.

Remember there was no such things as "grain" to the wood. Certainly their wood was much better/stronger. Plus it was "plied" wood. There are evidences from the site which suggest just that too.

 

Nice link rasonic,
but nutters paradise, the place of dreams and fools reality and all this happened 6000years ago? not in my lifetime and I am known as "chup-cheng"