Noahs' Ark- Better than New?

I just thank god for the internet and National Geographic
thats real education
so that we can still see and read sensible good scientific stuff
not nonsence of some power hungry dude on a mission with god on his side
there have been thousands of Jesus's - we just know about the one that they wanted us to know about
when a guy knew a couple of "magic" tricks he became "holy" and could talk to god

oh and dont forget 12 December 2012
check you at the pearly gates

 

While I can appreciate that some few have a achieved a spiritual based faith, and that spirituality can be very real, the religions, stories, and mythologies that teach the various dogma's are universally mythos derived from other mythos dating back often to the dawn of known history. Simply because the stories designed to convey faith and culminate in spirituality are often a conglomerations of historic misinterpretation and fiction, doesn't mean that the teachings intended by those stories can't eventually instill spirituality in its believers. The various religions only real difference is in what percentage of there adherents eventually attain a level of spiritual awareness.

I'd say some religions have a wildly more successful track record in this regard than others.

 

What is faith??...faith requires no justification and does not tolerate argument or reasoning of any kind.

What is so successful about that?

 

So what
"Spiritual awareness" is just another form of religious mental delusion.

 

I'd say religion has little or nothing to do with spirituality and that spirituality transcends religion and encompasses the compassionate beliefs that lead to a life style that exists regardless of religious beliefs

same answer works well for Add's take on the mater.

The stories are enlisted to convey faith, the faith is intended to engender spirituality, transcending whatever religion might have initiated the process.

 

I stand corrected. Spirituality is a ridiculous, non-religious delusion.

 

failing to see the benefits of the philosophical development commonly referred to as spirituality is a sure sign of the angry and closed minded


Without mentioning names, when I was subjected to the petty retribution of one of our more fervently religious members, I didn't question his religion, I questioned his following his religions teachings. Which are designed to some degree or another to guide its adherents down a path eventually leading to spiritual enlightenment. I'm certain there was something in there about turning the other cheek and the golden rule, I was pleasantly surprised that it worked, and genuinely hope that person is farther along that path than he was before.

Some folks no mater how much I disagree with them, I can still find a way to effectively communicate with them. But senseless disrespect and anger, particularly when directed at the spiritual beliefs of others, I consider universally hopeless to rebut, Its a choice at that point, logic has little or nothing to do with it.

Best of luck
B

 

Boston -sometimes you write the weirdest of stuff and contradictory to yourself.



Spirituality,-- philosophical development??

What is spirituality?

 

That's just heaping metaphysical nonsense onto the original mumbo-jumbo.

 

What a joke!
In his pages (which might have been removed now) he described how he became the Dalai when a crow looked at him oddly when he was 3 years old.
There was a whole lot of mumbo-jumbo about the importance of a box of old teeth in his dreams too.

Con-men like him need to be put away.

 

Frosty, I can see why someone who doesn't distinguish between religion and spirituality might find my writing contradictory. All I can say is its a subtle but imperative difference that allows people of one religious upbringing to find value in all the various religions teachings while realizing each is simply a construct of mythologies/stories.

Unfortunately a lot of people have used religion to subjugate and control rather than learn and develop. Its a fine line that most "obviously" chose not to recognize.

I suppose its best summed up by ole Jerry's phrase

You aint going to learn
what you don't want to know

in its simplest of terms
I think its most accurately called throwing the baby out with the bath water.

 

Immaturity, fear, inferiority, confusion, inability , incompetence, impotence, ignorance.


All reasons for grasping at something --anything- absolutely anything.

 

You will not find that in no mans mind but that of an atheist.

Religion is pure bigotry.

 

or a true believer ;-)

true, and all to often people do grasp at religion for all the wrong reasons. Could be why its such a reservoir for evil in the world, and its pretty easy to show that virtually all of the religions are made up of mythological stories, but among the evil masses there are those few who do seem to find something unique within those stories and make something better out of themselves for it. Its hard to put into words but if you can sift through the charlatans, the liars and the cheats, which are the vast majority, you sometimes find something genuinely amazing. I realize I can only describe in it relatively ambiguous terms but it does exist. Its just incredibly rare.

I'm not claiming anything for myself I'm just pointing out that there are those few who do seem to rise above it all. Some of the greatest religious figure heads I think are great examples, however there adherents misused there message. Some of course were blatant shysters as well. Its like picking through a barrel of rotten apples hoping to find one you can eat.

 

from Wikipedia:

My personal definition of spirituality is an acceptance of the idea that the universe and everything in it is an interconnected whole, rather than just a disjointed conglomeration of meaningless facts and objects, and a feeling that we as individuals are legitimate parts of a whole that transcends us -- whether we can encompass and comprehend it all in our minds or not.

Go ahead. Hunker down in your burrow, and tell me I'm delusional and ridiculous for feeling I'm part of a reality that stretches beyond just me and this room. I can handle it... my reality has room for you.