new pride of Norweigian sunk after SERIES of bungles

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  1. Squidly-Diddly
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    Stricken Norwegian Frigate Has Almost Completely Sunk After Its Anchor Wires Snapped http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/24887/stricken-norweigan-frigate-has-almost-completely-sunk-after-its-anchor-wires-snapped

    This coming on heels of Russia's "the floating smoke stack" being knocked out of action for foreseeable future.

    IIRC, there was lots of sabre rattling recently in the Norway/Russia region. Looks like peace has broken out. Reminds of when on old "Get Smart" TV show Max fights a karate assassin. Neither ever touches the other but they both beat themselves up badly slamming hands, feet, heads, etc into various objects and ill timed gymnastics.

    Don't new navy ships and massive dry docks have multi compartments to prevent sinking these days?

    (wont get into the "human factor")
     
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    I guess that didn't buff right out...
     
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    No wonder they collided - the whole radio transcript is totally unintelligible - they may as well have been speaking Norwegian :)

    "The response from the Norwegian naval vessel is unclear. The individual on the radio acknowledges the request, but seems to offer an alternative course of action, using the word blokkene. Many have translated this, which literally means "blocks," to mean that whoever was at the helm of Helge Ingstad was concerned about hitting the shore had they turned to starboard. Blokkene is also reportedly a common Norwegian word for the port, or left side, of a ship."
     
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    Even google translate wet the bed and gave up trying.
     
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    Now that was a very costly navigation mistake. Hopefully they can re-float the vessel and salvage it somehow.
     
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    Emerson in seawater this long in a modern, probably aluminum, ship full of electronics? Complete write off.
     
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    The main point of instruction when I went to riggers School the guys on the ground that rig construction crane loads was that all directions to the crane operator and operator you must be absolutely clearly only have one meaning. Likewise in 4th grade when we learned about Indian smoke signals. Then when I dabbled in computer programming it came up that you probably want to avoid zeros and O's because they can look the same likewise with number 1 and lowercase l or capital i if you are asking fickle customers to type in a password or other information that might get returned as error and irritate them.
     
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    I also remember reading from professional truck driver school how there are certain time blocks as Vehicles approach each other during which of decision must be made. These are of course seconds or fractions of seconds it intersections. With ships there are several minutes. Not to mention lots of supposedly train people with nothing else to do for hours and hours beforehand. I have heard reports that the recent rash of US Navy collisions has been caused by excessive emphasis on political correct training and other nonsense but it still seems weird.
     

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    It was supposed to be a super modern first of its class type of vessel. With all new newfangled everything everywhere. I guess they'll be able to use it as a training familiarization Hulk. Plus generations of Sea Cadets will get to reenact the Fateful moments in the most comic Fashion on the bridge. I'm nominating the captain for the Nobel Peace Prize. Maybe the John McCain honorable mention of the Nobel Peace Prize to be awarded to the professional soldier that puts the most military equipment of their own side out of action during the year preceding.
     
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