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My little piece of peace

Discussion in 'Marketplace' started by masalai, Feb 5, 2009.

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  1. Spiv
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    Spiv Ancient Mariner

    Hi Mas,

    great boat mate, compliments. I bet you love your vertical windows and the space in the saloon.

    Have you tried to put Nylon slides under the rudders arm? I heard that it fixed the problem on other boats.

    My cats all used to squat under power, but sailed level. Yours will do the same.

    Have fun mate and....
     
  2. Boston

    Boston Previous Member

    best of luck Mas with the finances and I agree with Spiv, cats don't power all that pretty but sail really well. I'm off, hey Hoyt check out were I bounce at. Some churches have ushers, the one I attend has bouncers :D and thanks all the Gods I get to be one of em. I even go twice a weekend :p which should put me in good standing even if you can't see it.

    cheers and have a great night folks

    Mas I predict you will resolve the financial issues to your advantage and move on to enjoy a fantastic life cruising the islands and making your mark among the people you meet and assist. Always a pleasure
    B

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  3. masalai
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    masalai masalai

    Hi All,
    Got a decent computer and OS at last - Linux Mint (Gloria), last used 391 days ago and put a different LCD monitor, Logitech keyboard (PS2) AND A usb mouse - works no worries... Now I can babble like a fresh brook, swollen with fresh rains... No more '*******' on heavy doses of opiates...

    OK now to the questions...
    Hi Landie,
    After I am gone I do not care - She can have it of whoever has possession ???

    Hi Spiv,
    I have threaded some hose over the ss-bar - problem 'solvered' ??
    She no squat now on full power - peaked out at 9.1 knots with a bit of a push from the tide under the Bribie Island bridge...

    Hi Boston,
    I will do my best to meet and exceed your predicted outcomes...

    Went out this morning and the starboard engine's battery was flat ?WTF? I left something running? Battery is now on charge from the mains circuits of the boat (8 x 175W solar-panels and 500AH of 24V batteries)...

    Missed the 'window', so will now watch BOM for another opportunity...
     
  4. masalai
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    masalai masalai

    No such luck there Boston, the parasites have a "rule book" which is more secret than any ASIO, CIA, FBI, or KGB operation and use what is termed "The Deemed Value" - against which there is no legal argument....

    It seems that some deity (Murphy ?), has managed to execute an effective delaying tactic...
    I have decided to use this interruption to get my teeth fixed,
    Get the fuel-tank on the tohatsu 2.5hp 2stroke replaced (it is split? How the F that happened during manufacture/assembly? is anybodies guess),
    Await the arrival of the registration cert or whatever for my EPIRB,
    - finish some "chores" like hang the pictures upstairs,
    - mow the lawns again (1.5 handkerchiefs),
    - I may even pressure water clean the "alfresco area" - 9m x 4m...

    Will that doom sayer, - who cried foul for the end of the world - come up with a third date? - The cheek of it, on my birthday~! such twaddle... I knew it could not happen - silly bugger should have asked me ... I would have told him, In no uncertain fashion of the truth of the matter... God told me that He does not release such information for technical reasons... Ask any time traveller... It is a matter of relativity and the flexibility inherent in the time/space continuum...
     
  5. masalai
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    masalai masalai

    #1 is done - - - 3 teeth removed... - not all that many left - DO NOT SMOKE, Just don't smoke - - - - from age 5 to 50 were the "smoking" years that caused all the damage... and from 50 to 66 the damage became visible, obvious and quite disfiguring and induces BAD BREATH... Mouth is numb... so do not expect me to talk to you for a couple of hours... :D
     
  6. hoytedow
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    hoytedow Carbon Based Life Form

    Feel better quick, Mas.
     
  7. Boston

    Boston Previous Member

  8. sabahcat
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    Dont forget the initial cost of mast sail and winches

    And perhaps buy a full belly of diesel in Venezuela
    That works out at $0.01119 USD ,is it really that cheap, $26 to fill up 2400L tankage?
     
  9. Boston

    Boston Previous Member

    I'm not sure what some of those abbreviations are but something tells me you might have calculated something incorrectly

    And yes we did at one time over on a thread I started specifically concerning this issue determine that for the cost of the mast sails rigging and associated equipment you could probably motor around 10,000 miles just on the set up costs, and after that most likely hit a fair equilibrium in maintenance costs on the sailing rig vs fuel. But once again it all depends on some important variables and how you compare them.

    I think that thread went on for something like 50 plus pages
     
  10. hoytedow
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    I never said I was a good Christian, though I try to be. I'll will endeavor to be more charitable to you. You need to quit insulting my faith or the Great Spirit will get you.
     
  11. sabahcat
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    What abbreviations?
    The VEB ?
    That's Venezuelan Bolivar http://www.oanda.com/currency/converter/

    48 VEB is currently worth 0.01116 USD

    2400 x 0.01116 = 26.784 , so yes, I did calculate something incorrectly, to the tune of 0.78c :p

    If rig sails winches and associated hardware was about $60k on my build (50ft performance cat) and I bought diesel in Venezuela, I would probably be able to motor at 8 knots for approximately 5,376,666 NM

    Thats if the numbers quoted in that article for fuel costs are correct

    Other sites say .06c/L is more like it
    http://www.escapeartist.com/efam/47/Living_In_Venezuela2.html

    Thats still allows 1,000,000 litres, more than enough for a lifetime of cruising on a fuel efficient boat

    Unfortunately where mine will be predominately based, diesel is about $0.55c/l, so I'll just have to satisfy myself with 109,000 litres or enough to circle the globe approx. 4 times :p
     
  12. Boston

    Boston Previous Member

    I'm still lost
    why did you start with 48 VEB instead of 1
    if 48 VEB = 0.01116 dollars then 1 VEB is equal to 0.0002325 dollars which places a the value of 1 VEB to the dollar at 4,301
    a gallon of fuel in VEB if $4 US to the gallon would be 17,204VEB. Either that or I'm completely turned around at this point and you have my apologies

    so that 60k build is got probably 30k of sails masts and rigging on it, which means that for 30k you can buy 7,500 gallons of fuel at $4 a gallon. Boats get jack for millage so you could likely figure something like 7500 miles of fuel.

    Hoyt
    I don't need charity
    it was a joke
    a friendly jibe
    a witticism
    jocularity Holmes

    Hoyt lighten up, we've all been the butt of a few good jokes, I know I have and "lord" knows you have :D, case in point you were one just yesterday and its likely going to be your turn again tomorrow if you keep up the bad attitude ;). The comments I made were all in good fun, as usual, and as usual you took offense where none was intended. Ive been guilty of that one myself but seldom over and over till the world stops turning ;-) The distinct lack of humor appears to be some kind of motus operendi possibly synonymous with a "plague" of sorts on the christian community, cause I've noticed how petty and vindictive things become the instant any jocularity enters a conversation involving christian religion. Must be those deep seated christian ideals surfacing or whatever cause "know them by there love" generally results in a law suet of some kind when said in reference to the church :idea:. I know a few dam good christians Hoyt but not many. Not sure why but some religions tend to sprout good descent people and some just don't, but thats a whole other subject. Lets just call a truce and realize we are not going to agree on much, but mind you one of my best friends is a devout christian and an all around great guy, I'm not expecting that, I just think we should be able to have a good laugh every once in a while and call it good at that. Who's getting laughed at on any given occasion is a simple mater of who's got there foot furthest down there throat. In the end peace is high on my priority list.

    Yes I often get a good laugh out of what appears to many like hypocrisy which was my point in mentioning "christian" ethics. Your reaction ( as a professing christian ) was predictable even if it was not the intent of my original post, but your reaction kinda fed the fires so to speak.

    "Charitable" I don't really need, "realize that we don't agree on jack and should be able to get along fine anyway", Kinda like Mark and I, would be more the proverbial lesson for today.

    The Great Spirit comment was interesting, no offense but it shows a complete misunderstanding of the concept. It varies among the different tribes and even within tribes but all in all any allusion to the Spirit as being some lone entity that might "get" me should I "sin" is completely and totally wrong in the extreme. The Great Spirit is not a God so to speak at least not as defined in the judeo-christianic theology.

    Cheers
    B
     
  13. sabahcat
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    sabahcat Senior Member

    Clearly


    because the article said a liter of diesel = 48veb

    Very good, just like oanda and I said, though I'm sure you mean 4301 VEB to the dollar dont you?

    WRONG
    A gallon of fuel in VEB would be 181 VEB
    (48 VEB/liter as per article x 3.78Litres to the us gallon = 181.44 VEB/ gallon)

    Aha

    Try reading again
    I said
    Which means what it says
    $60 k worth or rig sails winches and associated hardware
    Not $30k

    WRONG
    IF, it was
    $30k US = 129,040,000 VEB
    1 gallon = 181 VEB
    129,040,000 /181 = 712928 (gallons of fuel)
    x 3.78( for litres) = 2,694,867 (litres of fuel)

    You are buying fuel in Venezuela remember :rolleyes:



    What the hell are you on?

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  14. Boston

    Boston Previous Member

    No I just wasn't thinking I was in Venezuela, and neither are you, but I'd be skeptical if Venezuela would let you buy 3/4 of a million gallons of fuel if your not a citizen ( which costs somebody a not so small fortune ), or for that mater even if you were, if I remember they have some kind of rationing system on the border towns to help prevent smuggling into neighboring countries. I'd wish you the best of luck but something tells me you should bring some fun money on top of that 181 VEB you think your going to be spending.
     
  15. sabahcat
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    sabahcat Senior Member

    Correct
    But you did say you could cruise the Caribbean under sail than motor
    and Venezuela is at the bottom of the Caribbean

    Logically, one could re-supply and re-fuel there.

    Who said anything about buying it all in one go?

    Why cant I spend 6 mths cruising from Florida down to Venezuela
    Fill the boat up with fuel , 2400 litres at a time
    and cruise 6 mths back, leaving enough in the tanks to turn around and do the same again?

    What if I didn't even go back to the US and just did a continuous 2000nm loop around the Caribbean always refuelling once a year in Venezuela?
     

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