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Discussion in 'Marketplace' started by masalai, Feb 5, 2009.

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  1. masalai
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    masalai masalai

    I have mentioned what I will do - CocoNut Oil - Why do you think the boat is called CNO? - I am sure I have posted research and documentation elsewhere .... for all to read and see....

    If someone would like to join in, I would appreciate around $75K to do that stuff at one location in Melanesia somewhere - Instead of making copra and selling to buyers who send it to Europe, -
    - Re-habilitate a coconut plantation by replanting 10% to 20% a year,...
    - Expell the oil locally and sell as cold pressed for the health food / pharmaceutical market
    - The surplus, (not quite perfect coconut oil, the "reject" stuff), is fuel - It is ready as is....
    - Make Biochar and mix with compost and other stuff to "sweeten" it and apply as fertiliser...
    - Collect the $$$ as carbon credits, on locking up the carbon to benefit the farm...
    - Sell or use the "copra-meal" and "coconut-water" as stock-food to raise poultry and pigs
    - Use the 'dung' to sweeten the "Biochar" / compost mixture....
    - Sell the eggs, Poultry meat, Pig meat...
    - Apiculture adds bee-keeping options and 10% improved crop of coconuts....
    A neat little recycling circular business....

    Existing Biochar plants cost in Australia around $100K :eek: They generate their own methane as a by-product and use that to self-power that process...

    Boston, expect smoke until the engine achieves operating temperature... Remember it is jetted and tuned for the 100000+ year old stuff... not last weeks cooking oil :D
     
  2. Boston

    Boston Previous Member

    actually if you look at the film you'll see that with proper tuning almost no smoke is visible. I've seen those 100+k rigs and its ridiculous to spend that much on something you can DYI with an old kiln and a few pipes. I've seen pyrolysis systems that cost less then 2K and also run on there own byproducts. I would thing coconut oil would be even easier to process. And ya I remember you talking about running it on CC oil but I haven't seen your system to produce it yet, so is all that still in the plan?

    I was just thinking if your feeling light in the wallet and need a few hundred liters of fuel you might as well hit up the filling station and see if they don't have a 1k liter tank of used motor oil you might walk away with. Filter it, take the water out of it and mix it with your diesel. Works like a charm. Even boosts power. Cheap. No 100k system necessary
     
  3. masalai
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    masalai masalai

    The pyrolisis machine is NOT for the coconut oil, but the husks and shell, fallen fronds and other fallen litter that can be readily "burnt" - the $100K unit is "continuous flow" and commercial volumes exceeding 4000kg of charcoal / day in granules - a huge volume... I agree, it could be made on site for less...
     
  4. Boston

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    I'm just trying to encourage you along as we have basically the same plan. You got yours done miles ahead of me but my alternatives fueled truck is almost done. Try branching out in your fuel options, you'd be amazed at what will run through a diesel.
     
  5. masalai
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    masalai masalai

    Hi Bos - Yes almost anything including ammonia?..... It is a matter of priorities, time and money...
     
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    Well no time like the present to save money. And the same system that polishes your diesel will also polish motor oil well enough, unless you have emulsified water in which case you need a centrifuge. Long story short if your just hanging out and goofing off might as well build a small separate filtering station on board and start bringing in some alternative fuels. All told it wouldn't cost more than a few hundred to build and you could start in with that CNO or whatever almost immediately.
     
  7. masalai
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    masalai masalai

    Hi Bos, - - ? - - I do not "polish" the oil - just filter it to finer than 5 microns to remove the solid matter ("fibre" from the nut kernel) so it will pass through the injectors with ease - That is done in the factory as part of the process - even for the food grade oil..... Not good to mix fuels in filtering and other shared systems...
     
  8. Boston

    Boston Previous Member

    I'm suggesting you loose dependence on factory produced fuels and either collect them as waste oils and reprocess them yourself or go around with a big *** basket on your pedal car filled with coconuts. If you've got all the time in the world anyway might as well spend an hour a day or so collecting fuel. You'd be outa there in no time with cash to spare.

    Why isn't it good to mix fuels? I've been blending fuels for over a year now and its no problem as far as I can see. Maybe CNO is different but if it is then its limiting your options and maybe a different waste oil that can be more redily blended might be better suited to the scavenging lifestyle
     
  9. sabahcat
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    sabahcat Senior Member

    Normal 20hp nanni's from what I can gather
     
  10. Boston

    Boston Previous Member

    I meant coconut oil is different in that maybe it doesn't blend as well as other alternative oils.
     
  11. masalai
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    masalai masalai

    Coconut Oil is reported to blend OK but will dissolve any "sludge" when mixed in the diesel-tanks, and block filters for a while when crossing to Coconut Oil... the fuel version of Coconut Oil is called CNO - sorry for the confusion there sabahcat... - The engines are 20hp Kobota/nanni
     
  12. Boston

    Boston Previous Member

    IDI or DI Mas
    the IDI diesels run a bit better on alternatives
    less electronics as well
    less stuff = more reliable
     
  13. masalai
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    masalai masalai

    Shoooot, all these acronyms? - - - The engine is a run of the mill Kubota 3 cyl 722 cc maranised by Nanni - - - Sea Wasp do a far better marinisation job on the same engine base as that is my spare (what was the genset)....

    The 3 white painted engine pictures are the Sea-Wasp conversions... 2611, 2612, 2651...
     

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  14. WestVanHan
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    WestVanHan Not a Senior Member

    How on earth did this happen? Why are you risking more than 3% of your account? :eek: :confused:

    I've traded "many" lots at a time and can't even imagine getting anywhere near any sort of margin call. How?

    Don't worry about "stability"....I'd say no more trading until you learn more about the basics of trading.

    If you want some tips PM me....
     

  15. masalai
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    masalai masalai

    Still waiting patiently for my next voyage...
     

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