Multihull One Design-ORMA 70

Discussion in 'Multihulls' started by Doug Lord, Apr 26, 2010.

  1. Doug Lord
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    Gary reminded me tonight that the Volvo Ocean race ended today with TNZ winning the last leg-which is great. But it brought home-with great sadness- the terrible loss that probably very few people realize or appreciate.
    As of now, three of the greatest, most innovative design rules in sailing have been gutted and eliminated. Now there will be no more design development in vibrant racing classes that was such a treat to behold in the ORMA 60 trimarans-the boats that proved curved lifting foils in multihulls, in the Open 60 monohulls-first keelboat racing class to use canting keels and curved lifting foils, and in the Volvo Ocean Race boats now condemned to a Farr one design.
    I guess its going to take groups of rich guys to do the innovating like Hydroptere, Banque Populaire V and Speed Dream. While that may be spectacular the racing in the great classes that fostered such incredible innovation is now dead. Damned unfortunate, if you ask me......
    And you say this is 2012?! Wow, what a year......
     
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    I sympathise with your view but sadly it was always going to happen even Formula One introduced limits in the end to development to control costs. Unfortunately we dont have a legion of billionaires splashing money into multihull racing so the racing class has to be a cost effective sponsorship package with decent return on investment from a Commercial perspective. The Multi One Design organisation realises this caveat and have worked to develop a class that will mean every team has a chance and costs dont escalate beyond value. As an example Franck Camma's Groupama2 which was easily the best ORMA of it's generation won five consecutive ORMA championships it's really hard to keep sponsors interested in the other teams when a single team has that level of success.

    It's funny I was musing on this same point in the other thread on small trimarans. Formula 40 in the end was a victim of ever escalating technology and its associated costs not unlike ORMA60 but what wonderful boats the final Formula 40's were. Lets celebrate the new MOD70's and remember those wonderful ORMA60's the new generation isn't quite as interesting but it is a worthy successor and the racing will be no less spirited.
     
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    Doug, Corley, Gary & others - spare a moment - read - please & reflect

    J A C K S O N ' S L A W T O S U R V I V E

    Well now 'goodevening' or 'gooday' - tomorrow when you's get 'outabed', hey - 'London-to-a-brick' - - when you get up tomorrow you will be breathing & it WILL be a grand day - - so don't go & muck it up. Smile & be happy ! !

    Listen here YOU TWO & lighten-up. As you well know - I'm just over 30 years old - so I DO think (but not all that often or very well either) BUT I do know that I could - with the greatest of ease - take apart - each & every sentence - that you both have said above & still not stop smiling.

    Let us start - with an observation - pick anyone your want - from any-side of yachting - you wish to name please - -

    Money is a 'crap' lazy excuse for not getting off you *** & making the time - making it happen - making a few extra bucks to MAKE-IT-HAPPEN.

    That my friends is a FACT not an opinion.

    Rebels will always live, survive & rise to the top - it is the way of the universe ! ! !

    Innovation is not born of money - but it can be temporarily held back by money. It takes brains that are turned-on & fired-up not just dollars.

    Dollars might make the 'road' forward a tad easier - but money can't stop developement happening - it's never managed to do so yet ! ! !

    Try what has kept me - in this place - "P M A" Positive Mental Attitude.

    I can ! - so - I wll ! - so - I do ! - so - I am ! .

    Bye now, james
     
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    Hi Silver Raven I'm all in favour of PMA it's certainly more enjoyable to live with than PMS with a wife and two young daughters I'm going to have years of that to live with I think I might become a hermit and live in a cave for a few years. I hope I didn't sound overly serious in my wrapup I'm just glad we have an offshore trimaran racing circuit to enjoy.
     
  5. Doug Lord
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    I think the Mod 70's are terrific but what I'll miss is the development that took place over so many years and contributed so much to modern mono and multihull design. Always looked forward to getting the latest issue of Seahorse to check out the newest developments. No new developments except by rich guys that want to set a record. Development is out in all the great races and it is a damn shame. I think cutting out the designers and builders in both multies and monos is going to turn out to be a big mistake-at least I hope so......
     
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    NEWS FLASH • 3 July 2012
    Race For Water wins
    the KRYS OCEAN RACE prologue
    Steve Ravussin and crew of the MOD70 Race for Water won the 'race to New York’, KRYS OCEAN RACE prologue from Newport to New York when they passed Groupe Edmond de Rothschild in the final half mile to the finish line.


    Ravussin, one of the founders of the MOD70 class, could not contain his delight as he hugged his crew, which included class President Marco Simeoni.

    In very light winds, Ravussin and his team looked to have slowed badly on the Coney Island shore, snared in a big calm zone. But when they extracted themselves they were able to sail a more direct course, accelerating past the race leader to steal a morale boosting first gun, just ahead of Seb Josse's team which lead out of Newport last night.

    Race For Water completed the course in 12 hours, 53 minutes and 20 seconds, just 2 minutes and 30 seconds ahead of Groupe Edmond de Rothschild. Spindrift racing skippered by Yann Guichard closed in on 3rd with FONCIA right behind. Musandam-Oman Sail brings to a conclusion the prologue from Newport to New York after sixteen hours of racing.

    The fleet completes the race with a parade sail up the Hudson River to their base at North Cove Marina in on the South of Manhattan, where the trimarans will be based until the start of the KRYS OCEAN RACE on Saturday 7th July.

    KRYS OCEAN RACE provisional results
    1) Race For Water ( Stève Ravussin) finised at 12h53’20’’ (CET)
    2) Groupe Edmond de Rothschild (Sébastien Josse) finished at 12h55’50’’ (CET)
    3) Spindrift racing (Yann Guichard) finished at 13h35’08’’ (CET)
    4) FONCIA (Michel Desjoyeaux) finished at 13h38’44’’ (CET)
    5) Musandam-Oman Sail (Sidney Gavignet) finised at 14h04’01’’ (CET)
     
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    I happened to see FONCIA leaving harbor at Newport while I was over watching the AC45s...impressive boats all--it does inspire you--even if you're only playing with small boats and small budgets.
     
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    Gooday y'all - Why didn't someone else spot this ???
    In 'sailing arancht' - krys - Mod 70's - - Spindrift - has a split c/b ! ! !

    What say you all ??? Good ??? Bad ??? Not new - I know - but have they discouvered something new - that we aren't up to speed - with as yet ???

    Opinions please. Oh - other than all this 'multihull pron' is really a buzzzzz

    I'll have - all 'you's-all' can post - of course ! ! Thanks, james
     
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    G'morning Corley. Can you find any video of the start & beginning of the race? I've been trying to see a video of the start - but can't find one anywhere. Ciao, james ----- Gee - they sure are impressive big boat pron toys. jj
     
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    Good morning, No video that I've seen yet they must be doing a bit of production/processing work on it now. Sounds like the start was a bit of a drifter. They are doing quite well now unfavourable conditions but still doing around the 20kt mark.
     
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    'morn' there. Thanks for that. Question - do I see a 'split' c/b on 'Spindrift' when I blow the pick up to max ???

    I'm sure - that I'm out of the c/b & foil discussion - there all to bloody smart for the likes of me. What I had originally tried to do was let people know that - at least here in OZ - we were doing all that stuff back in the 60's & we knew it worked back then - - but of course - we know now that - all that couldn't have happened - cause it's not possible - so the 'new bread' of experts say. Gawd - some of these - techno-phobics are truely a pain - wish they'd get off their butts & just go out sailing & then they might just learn something - for a change. Alas - it just anin't going to happen. Ciao, james
     

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