Matt Layden design

Discussion in 'Boat Design' started by kc4tm258, Aug 30, 2014.

  1. kc4tm258
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    Hi all, name here is Terry and I'm new to the forum. I recently finished my second Matt Layden design and thought I'd share. Its a hybrid design between Matt's Enigma and Paradox. Sea trials went well and I'm very happy with the overall design. Waiting for cooler weather to get her out for some weekend fun.

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    YouTube Video below.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsjFtwDyoWs&list=UUlJy-ojP91YxmpkG3k06w-w
     
  2. PAR
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    Welcome to the forum. Where in FL are you located?
     
  3. kc4tm258
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    I'm in Fort Myers.
     
  4. ImaginaryNumber
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    Looks very nice. What are its basic dimensions?
     
  5. kc4tm258
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    13' 9" overall, 44" beam. About the same interior space as the Paradox.

    Here is a short pictorial video on the build process:

    http://youtu.be/X7TVjrQ0sRY
     
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    Hi Terry,

    Looks to be a nice boat! I also consider a Paradox, therefore the interest...
    Was the other Matt's design you built a Paradox? You seem to have borrowed the shape of the bottom from Enigma, is this the main difference from original Paradox? If so, do you feel difference in performance between these two?


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    Eerik
     
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    Nice job! Are you using the under sole storage? As asked, tell us more.
     
  9. dryboater
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    Very nice

    Hi Terry - I am also new to the forum and intereste in Matt Layden's designs. I bought his Paradox plans and the building manual. Did you find Enigma plans to combine with Paradox plans, or did you do it by eye? Either way, nice job.

    I am thinking about scaling up Paradox 20%, I understand I can do that without changing the dimensional lumber although I might be wise to add a bit more weight on the bottom. I figure that will give me a boat a little over 16' but with a lot more interior room. Has anyone ever seen this done? I am also hearing about a Layden "big cruiser" but it does not seem to be laid down on paper yet.Thanks all for a great forum. Chris
     
  10. kc4tm258
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    Eerik, my first build was an Enigma clone. I found a set of CAD files on the Microcruiser forum which was my basic starting point. That boat sailed well, but didn't have the room I was looking for, so I sold it. Yes, this boat has the same bottom as Enigma with wider and longer dimensions. I mocked up the boat using card stock paper several times before I was happy with the design before starting the build. The entire boat is build from 3/8 inch ply. Epoxy and fiberglass covered inside and out.
     
  11. kc4tm258
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    I'm not sure how well an enlarged Paradox would do ... I know Sven Yrvind had problems with his 15 footer going to windward. Now, I don't know if that was due to the excessive weight in the boat or the small sail area. He told me personally the boat sailed best in 50 kt winds.

    I think one of the main components with the chine runner concept is the boat likes to be well heeled over for better windward perfomance ... I don't know if that is the design, but seems to work for me. I really don't understand the physics behind the chine runners, but in my mind they like to be "dug in" really deep for best performance.

    When I first started building this boat I had no idea how it would act in the water, but I was pleasantly surprised the first time out. I would say go for it and see how it does.
     

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    No, all the storage is in fore and aft compartments and a small amount in the two side boxes that were built in more for structural than storage. Originally, I was going lean more towards a Paradox design, but leaned more towards "modified" Enigma plans instead ... mostly for ease of building and material cost. Although, with what I have invested in this one, I could have easily built Paradox ... lol
     
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