Lloyds Marine Surveyor Diploma

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  1. tgabop
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    I have been lucky enough to recieve some really great support form users of this forum, so thought I should give a bit back if anyone is interested.

    I recently completed a Diploma in Marine Surveying offered through a distance learning ( Internet) provider.

    The course consisted of 12 core modules sent monthly and requiring an assignment to be submitted on completion. The specialist module was the last issued module and made up approximately half of the questions in the final exam.

    The modules covered the following:

    Core Modules
    The Maritime Industry and Marine Survey Practice
    Budgeting and Accounting for Surveyors
    Effective Writing and Reporting
    Naval Architecture for Surveyors
    Marine Surveying Law
    Marine Surveying Insurance
    Marine Incident Investigation
    Safety Surveys
    Hull and Structural Surveys
    Fundamentals of Marine Engineering

    Specialist Modules
    Non-Liquid Cargo Surveys
    Liquid Cargo Surveys
    Surveying of Superyachts
    Marine Environmental Surveying
    Marine Engineering Surveys
    International Safety Management (ISM) Code
    Warranty Surveys including Mobile Offshore Units

    Overall I would say a very interesting course, a lot of reading to get through, but very practical in the way it was written.

    If any of you are interested to know more, please ask away.
     
  2. Ad Hoc
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    Ad Hoc Naval Architect

    Good luck...hope all goes well and you enjoy your new career :)
     
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    Dear Sir,

    Can you please give me information on the following aspects:

    - You get 12 modules, one each month - can you please confirm that the training is done in a year?

    - One assignement per module or just a major one at the end?

    - Do you have to go and see the university at some point?

    - Can you please confirm that the price is nearly 3000 GBP?

    - Are there any helps for financing this training as a European citizen?

    - Finally, have you hadd recognition for this diploma? Have you managed to get a job quicky as a surveyor?

    I would be very interested to do it and look forward to read you.

    Thanks for all this information. Best regards, Vincent Hermes
     
  4. Landlubber
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    tgabop.

    Can you please name the course or show an internet link, sounds interesting...does it have a LLoyds certified certificate at the end of it?
     
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  6. tgabop
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    tgabop Junior Member

    Here are the answers to your questions

    You get 12 modules, one each month - can you please confirm that the training is done in a year? Training is meant to be done in one year, but i am fairly sure you can defer the date of your exams, not sure of the time length but it costs 450 pounds sterling.

    - One assignement per module or just a major one at the end?
    You must do an assignment after each module, the length being 2000 or 3000 words, there is no assignment for the specialist module the assignments total 45 % of the total mark for the course.

    - Do you have to go and see the university at some point?
    No all study is delivered by post or email

    - Can you please confirm that the price is nearly 3000 GBP?
    Bit more about 3600 GBP I think, at the time I payed the pound was very low so I ended up paying 3620 Euro approximately

    - Are there any helps for financing this training as a European citizen?
    Dont think so I am in Germany and I am not aware of any government assistance.

    - Finally, have you hadd recognition for this diploma? Have you managed to get a job quicky as a surveyor?
    I think like all courses there are many who graduate and go nowhere I am sure this course is no exception. I think also that if you work as a surveyor you need to continue studying throughout your career. My way of thinking is that it is a nice thing to have to show an employer you are committed to your trade, however a Degree in Naval Architecture in most cases is what is being sought when companies recruit surveyors. I have done three private surveys of pleasure craft since doing my exam on the 10th of November.

    Lloyd's Maritime Academy is a private company providing these courses out of the UK. Their courses are approved and recognized by a number of industry bodies. From my research before starting the course there is also another diploma course offered through IIMS. I was consulted into believing the Lloyds Maritime course was the better of the two, I cant tell you if that is the case. I do not have any association with either company that offers these course, apart form being a student of the Lloyds Maritime course.

    There is no association with Lloyds of London or Germanisher Lloyds I have no doubt the name recognition is a big part of marketing, but they are a completely separate entity.
     
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    Thank you very much for all this. It is very attractive indeed.

    Thanks again for your quick and complete answer. Vincent
     
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    Thanks Vince and tgabop.

    I thought the name was just a play on Lloyds name. Ta.
     
  9. ociship
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    Hi all,
    I am living in Viet Nam, designer of Hyundai shipyard. I want to apply for this course but I don't know How many money in USD of course?

    Thanks!$
     
  10. tgabop
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    Hi the cost in USD depends on the exchange rate so convert 3600 GBP to USD that will give you an approximate cost.

    One thing I should point out about this course is that it will be very challenging if English is not your first language or you do not have a business level understanding of English.

    The modules require about 30 hours a month of reading including the recommended reading, so there is a lot of material to get through, those with a moderate level of English skills will find it very hard going, those with a low understanding of English will find it impossible.

    There is also a requirement to understand Algebra and general mathematics, but the ability to read and comprehend at speed is most important.
     
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    Wow,
    Thanks for your help. It is so high with my salary. I will find other courses lower money.
     
  12. DavidJ
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    Thank you tgabop for this great information. I had signed up for the course that started in November but chickened out at the last minute. I was concerned about the amount of time required and the difficulty of the course. I have a young family and getting time to myself can be difficult.

    What type of tasks are required in the assignments? You mentioned 2000-3000 words. Are they then mostly written essay type of assignments based on the readings?

    I found it interesting to learn from you that Lloyd's Maritime Academy is not associated with Lloyd's Register. I had assumed it was one and the same.
     
  13. tgabop
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    Hi David

    I nearly did the same as you just prior to starting, I have two boys one 4 one 3, I was also knew i was going to be working away from home for a period during the year. I decided to go ahead and would say it was fairly stressful getting through it along with all the other distractions.

    But what is twelve months in the scheme of things. I am glad i did the course I found it very interesting and after doing a couple of leisure boat surveys feel like I retained a fair bit of knowledge.

    Regarding the assignments the following are examples of actual assignement questions (normally there were five or six questions like these to answer per assignment). Generally my assignments were about 3000 word long, I have no idea if this was an average length. To get average scores in your assignments you could regurgitate from the readings or for good marks include researched info.




    • [*]The half cross sectional area m2 defining the underwater hull of a ship (that is the area to one side of the centreline) at stations along the length of the ship, 10 m apart and reading from forward to aft are;

      [*]0, 17.5, 41.2, 66.3, 85.0, 93.8 87.5, 68.8, 43.7, 21.2, 2.5

      [*]Calculate using Simpsons Rule 1,4,1 for approximate integration.

      [*]Discuss the transverse metacentre of a ship and how it can be used to define the stability of a ship at small angles of heel.

      [*]What are the benefits from incorporating turbochargers in 2 stroke slow speed engines, and what are the potential safety hazards arising from their operation?
     

  14. DavidJ
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    That is a very helpful response. It was very nice to see a sample question. Thank you again tgabop.

    I also have two boys, aged 5 and 3.
     
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