Just how bad is this idea... The Peanut Galley

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  1. fallguy
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    Glad to see the kid tryin. Win win win

    lifevest for 420?
     
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    This. Buddy had a SOT that was a triple so it could be paddled as a single. IIRC it was rated for over 600lbs and still paddled single OK with 240cm, if you weren't in too much of a hurry. He liked the extra size and stability for kayak fishing, plus the versatility of the 3 seats. He could take a kid along to paddle up front while he fished from the stern, leaving middle open for gear. I've seen guys with homemade front leg covers that look like they were secured with snaps on the side of boat, if you want similar protection as Sit-In.

    I've got a Tarpon 16i, and I'm about 300lbs and more top heavy than a woman and I'm sure it would be fine. Hobie also makes several burly kayaks, mostly for fishing, and they include the Hobie Drive. Women like the Hobie Drive due to less upper body strength.
     
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    So it is doable but risky. I still say a rowboat would be a better starting point. Burn off some pounds by rowing and then move into a kayak.
     
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    They make rowing machines.

    Rowing is/can be an exceptionally strenuous activity. I did something on one of the machines that permanently affected my heart rhythm. Overdid. Doctors don't agree, but I have pab and never did before I did one workout to pain in my chest.

    I would be careful rowing at 420#.

    But a small, well suited rowboat will be lotsa fun. Just make it long enough. Short rowboats for 420 suck.
     
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    It would suck going on a kayak tour of a lake with a couple of friends and be the one facing backwards while everyone else gets to see where they're going.

    I love to row, but I love rowing for rowing, not for going. If alternative boats are being considered, try a solo canoe setup with a seat instead of kneeling and use a kayak paddle.
     
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    Everything that requires climbing over the gunwhale is out of the question. If you don't understand why, watch the first minutes of the video, it's self explanatory.
    What is better, rowing or paddling, is academic, there will not be correct torso and leg work for either of them. The right form of exercise in that weight class is swimming.
     
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    Buy plans for a Guilemot Microbootlegger.
    17 feet, 450# max displacement, 2 seater ( just put in 1 seat).
    Weighs about 60#.
    Pretty, paddles well, only 27" wide.
    microBootlegger | Guillemot Kayaks https://www.guillemot-kayaks.com/catalog/strip-built/recreational-kayak-canoes-solo-tandem/microbootlegger
    $102 for plans.

    Or, you could buy mine - never used. Built for my daughter and her now ex-husband.
    Just take out one seat.
    The sale offer is mostly a joke, since you are too far away.
    Getting in the boat will be difficult as said above.
     
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    +1 re Rumars' observation above - in the water one is weightless, hence much less load / stress on joints. Swimming is by the best all around exercise - and even gentle swimming burns up calories considerably faster than running on land, as the body is burning energy to stay warm (water is a much more effective conductor of heat than air is).
    And go on a sensible diet, in conjunction with a swimming exercise plan - not too radical, you want to lose 2 -3 lbs / week at the most. A pal of mine in Caledonia was 400 odd lbs, and he has lost 200 lbs over the past 2 years doing the above.
     
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    All the advice given here should be subject to the approval of the physician.
     
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    Swimming is the best ... exercise"
    Just what my mother told me.
    But swimming is difficult for someone with limited mobility.
    Being able to get a breath is difficult without being able to get in the proper position.

    Walking and food restriction is probably the best start.
    You can't really exercise weight away.
    I was told that a Big Mac meal is the equivalent of a marathon. Probably not exactly right, but the principle is correct.

    For me exercise is helpful to kill the appetite.
     
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    The OP said his wife wants to get into kayaking. He didn't say why. Any form of physical activity is exercise, but that may not be why she is interested in kayaking.
     
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    The kid's balance looks tenuous to me, on that kayak film clip. Lowering his position would improve stability, but might be uncomfortable/ unsustainable because of ergonomics associated with his size.
     
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    Sitting down on a chair is much easier than lowering or climbing out of a cockpit.
     

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    all my young life I'd been lifting heavy objects without caring about "proper form" etc, never even had a back ache except if sitting on funny chair or something. Going swimming and jump in and water is kinda cold so I'm sorta tensing my core muscles and something goes pop, and few weeks later I'm on the slab being gutted like a fish for hernia repair and recovery was most painful thing I'd been through.

    They say the best exercise for weight loss is arm extension, like pushups, but has to be done pushing yourself away from the dining table. However, its routine for people with even moderate Daily Mile goals to loose lots of weigh very fast on multi-day hiking or biking tours, even if not trying and trying to consume as much food as practical for energy including lots of pancakes, sausage, eggs, beer, etc.

    I'd recommend SOT for any mobility challenged person, and remove and sealant any protrusions for pain-free re-boarding and recovery, and don't have a raised seat like the kid in youtube. Seems like re-boarding a normal boat with fairly high sides would be a non-starter for all but light and athletic people.

    Even though I'm don't do it nearly as often, I can paddle my big heavy Tarpon 16i for 5+ miles and not feel as worn out as walking same time/distance, and goes 4-fold if carrying any extra weight.
     
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