Is the ocean broken?

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

 

I think this type of information is useful for two reasons.

The first is that on this and other similar threads deniers periodically make the claim that AGW is a topic that the average American doesn't know anything about and doesn't care about. These polls indicate otherwise.

The second reason this information is useful is because most leader are not leaders, but actually followers. They wait until an issue becomes a major public topic before doing anything about it. So polls like this are a way of offering guidance to our following-leaders on what issues that can "lead" us on and hope to have people "follow" them (ie, vote for them).

 

Two points:

1) The US firebombed Tokyo and killed an estimated 100,000 civilians, as compared to the estimated 129,000 to 226,000 civilians killed by the two atomic bombs. Conventional weapons are pretty lethal too, and they've become even more nasty in the intervening 75 years.
Bombing of Tokyo - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Tokyo
Atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_bombings_of_Hiroshima_and_Nagasaki

2) The evolutionary idea of the survival of the fittest DOES NOT refer to the survival of individuals. We all die, one way or another, sooner or later. It refers to the survival, or continuation, of a SPECIES. If two species are competing in the same environment, that species which is strongest, fastest, cleverest, smartest, flexiblest, most fecund, etc, is most apt to survive.

Of course, environments change, and one particular species that may be fittest for the previous environment may not be fittest in the new environment. That's part of the problem with AGW. It is changing the environment; and not only changing it, but changing it quickly. It's changing it far more quickly than many species can adapt to that change. And since we humans have gotten use to the particular environment we now live in, we may find it discomfiting when it changes on us.

 

I wasn't suggesting using the nukes was wrong headed, I was lamenting that for an intelligent species to be it's own worst enemy lacks genius.,

 

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Nicely said.

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-Will (Dragonfly)

 

Russian surfers say mystery ocean pollution is poisoning them and killing animals

Surfers in Russia's far eastern region of Kamchatka have reported ocean water pollution so bad that it's poisoning them, and may behind a mysterious mass die-off of sea life along the peninsula's Pacific coast. Pictures and videos circulating widely on social media show thousands of dead animals washed up on the region's beaches in recent days, including octopuses, sea stars, fish and shellfish.

A report by the state-run Tass news agency suggested a commercial oil tanker leak might have caused the pollution.

 

The daring plan to save the Arctic ice with glass

This fall Arctic sea ice was at its second-lowest extent since satellite coverage began.

As planet-warming greenhouse gas emissions continue to rise, some have been driven to explore desperate measures. One proposal put forward by the California-based non-profit Arctic Ice Project appears as daring as it is bizarre: to scatter a thin layer of reflective glass powder over parts of the Arctic, in an effort to protect it from the Sun’s rays and help ice grow back. “We’re trying to break [that] feedback loop and start rebuilding,” says engineer Leslie Field, an adjunct lecturer at Stanford University and chief technical officer of the organisation.

Over the past decade, she and her team have scattered the silica spheres over several lakes and ponds in Canada and the United States, so far with encouraging results.

 

I'd be interested to see how they manage to measure their encouraging results, other than the measure of pollution and litter it results in.

-Will (Dragonfly)

 

Powdered glass over the snow, is unkind to snowcreme eaters.
Everyone knows not to eat yellow snow, but the powdered glass doesn't have a built in warning device.

 

It's diabolical.
It is a tremendous waste of money, probably taxpayers', who never even got to vote on how the masterminds would squander their hard-earned money.
Besides, it will all be flushed into the sea within a season.

 

Think of it: Online classes remove the excuse of taking a snow day.
Hahahaha.

 

Occasional bad attitude is comparable to bad weather, localized and temporary.
Chronic bad attitude is personality, comparable to climate, regional and permanent, more or less.

 

CHEER UP! There are good climates and good folk with good attitudes too.

 

¡Que bueno!

 

I am doing my part for oceanic warming. I got a new water heater. It is 90 hp and I call it Yamaha.