Hurricane Sandy

Discussion in 'All Things Boats & Boating' started by Leo Lazauskas, Oct 29, 2012.

  1. Frosty

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    The Bounty captain was a fool??

    Your not coming in from nothing . You are trying to survive and go where you can. This is Frankenstorm not a windy Sunday afternoon. You don't have sails up in 60 knots or more --you will be doing 12 knots on bare poles, the last thing you do is try to drop anchor---if any one could get to the bow. If your already on anchor you just use the anchor as a kedge and hold on engine for as long as it takes --this is horrendous life threatening situations .

    You think this is the best place to be still? Dropping anchor in these conditions and you'lle never get it out again, your stuck. you wont have the power to pull forward to release it and if you drag into shallow water the boat will be smashed. Any anchoring is considered shallow water and the waves could be horrendous.
     
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  3. Frosty

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    I think hes dead --didnt they call off the search RIP.
     
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    You have made a foolish decision before I'm sure.
    Does that make you a fool?
     
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    What do you think of the storm surge barrier idea?

    http://www.businessinsider.com/new-york-storm-surge-barrier-2012-11#-2

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/49670776

    Could New York be protected similarly to Venice? Estimates go from 7 to 29 billion to build a surge defense barrier. Estimated losses from Sandy were 18 billion in NY state.
     
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    It would be much cheaper to build on higher ground.
     
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    New subway costs $300 to $500 million, per mile.
     
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    Then they should not have built it there.
     
  9. michael pierzga
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    Yah...move em out. Might take generations but worthwhile.

    One curiosity with US east coast hurricanes is that the damage is inflicted on rick folks. Poor folks dont live on the water with a dock and a few boats. When society has to step in and rescue the situation...rebuild all the trashed infrastructure...it is really a massive transfer of money from everyday Joe taxpayers to rich Long Islanders.
     
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    Heavy property taxes are collected for living on the coast or in NYC.
     
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    The Special interest group that keeps unsustainable beach front communities alive are the politicians who crave these property taxes.
     
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    No one has to strongarm buyers to buy beachfront or downtown NYC. They're in demand.
    Is it a special interest group that keeps people going to Venice? Or do people want to be there despite the flooding?
    The Netherlands has 20% of the population below sea level.
     
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    Demand is a personal issue. Infrastrucure is a Public issue. If you own beachfront property then be my guest and use it as you please...it is your right.
    Just dont expect public infrastrure, such as a new bridge.
     

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    Much of the most valuable real estate in the world is in danger from something. (flooding, hurricane, tsunami, earthquake, tornado, mudslide, fire)

    High property taxes collected on real estate should provide money to rebuild infrastructure.
     

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    Sorry...if those rich folks moved to high ground.. and rich folk deserve a nice place to live, that high ground would increase in value and generate plenty of property tax.

    Public policy that actually encourages people to build in the delicate zone for TAX generation reasons is misguided policy and unsustainable
     
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